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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything. -- Rej Maddog (Talk) 03:25, August 6, 2010

delete location[]

Like cancel, delete was moved around. It's now in the menu under edit.

If you don't see a delete entry in the edit menu for the sandbox page you want to delete let me know which page to delete and I'll get rid of it.

Thanks for help with the chronology page[]

Hi thanks for your corrections to the recent page edits. If you are interested there are a few tasks I am hoping to see someone adopt. First I would love if someone wanted to take over the current page summaries that I am currently doing. I can go into details if you are interested. It mainly consists of doing 3 edits a week as each page comes out and then a fourth edit to adjust page breaks and prepare for the next week. I originally took it on to see what needed to be streamlined. Of course by doing it I got it added to my regular plate of chores. I enjoy it and it adds zest to reading the pages. My problem is at some point in the next three months to a year my ability to edit the site will be gone as a result of some oncoming life changes. So I would love to find someone willing to enjoy this task.

Alternately, Volume X and Volume XI have many sections where the entries are incomplete. So it would be good if someone would volunteer to tackle backlog. Usually it is pretty easy to complete one section in one editing session. If either of these tasks interest you let me know and I will provide further details if needed.

20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 02:01, November 23, 2011 (UTC)
I am interested, but I am not ready to commit to anything yet. I would appreciate it if you would provide some more details about both task you have mentioned above. -- William Ansley 04:04, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
The beauty of a wiki (when run right) is that most things require no commitment and not much skill—do what you can and the next person can improve it. I've polished articles started by others, and other times started an article with a couple of notes and left it for others to polish.
For most of the Chronology, the goal is just to add notes (with wiki links where appropriate) to each page. Try to figure out what others might search for in the future and mention it.
The one part with a time constraint (sort of) is adding new templates each week. It's not hard, but it's trickier than just typing notes. Mess up the templates and the page is hard to edit and ugly to view, get them right and it's easy to others to add notes. I was doing it for a while, then Rej took it over (thankfully, my time to edit has been limited for quite a while). Argadi 12:16, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
I am good a messing things up. So I strive to make getting things right as easy as possible. The key has been to have a short current section for each week. Plus a willingness to preview things to find the errors. When I screw up I just remember Agatha blowing up the coffee machine and go about the repairs. 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤?
The beauty of a wiki is that the right monster usually selects themselves for the right job. The other beauty is that there are a lot of others around to help. 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤?

The better task to get ones feet wet is helping to get Chrono X and XI up to date. That consists mostly of picking an uncommented section. Calling up the pages. Noting the details in the character, text, quotes and extra's field then summarizing story on that page in the action field. Per section the characters tend to repeat so cut and paste works well. For a summary you can either roll your own which you may find more satisfying or refer to my weekly notes User:Rej Maddog/Rej's Weekly.

Keeping the pages current simply means doing the same thing for current pages. While Argadi is right that no one needs make a commitment, this task does means everytime the Foglio's put out a new page then an update will be needed. Experimenting I found out it is easiest to do it as I first encounter the page. Not too much work at once and of course if I do it on time everyone can enjoy it soonest. The Foglios can be relied upon for pages MWF. If we can be relied upon for a well updated index to the pages it will help GG scholars everywhere.

20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 00:45, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

I regards to what happened to Othar dude, it's a good guess he got "thrown out of the ship"...again XD.Master 3x3lcior 10:19, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

tina shoutout[]

Thanks for your editing help with the chronology page.

I elided everything back and just included the clank under the troops and minions phrase. Corgi pointed out elsewhere that she was likely a steam-punked shout out to tina (platinum) of the metal men.

20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 05:36, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Try a nonbreaking space[]

I noticed your experimentation with the new template. A non breaking space will use a blank space to represent the page link . This will be invisible until you directly mouse over it.

& nbsp ;  remove the spaces in practice 
20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 23:03, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Two page spreads page -- Yeah![]

20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 20:57, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Seige or Siege?[]

Are your sure your correction was correct? Phil wrote Seige and that is an old spelling of Siege. Argadi (talk) 11:34, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

26 Years[]

You (unless there is a highly unusual coincidence) commented on Girl Genius Labs recently that you wanted to read the books because you didn't want to wait 13 years to get to the end. I have some bad news—the professors have said that Mechanicsburg scenes would be the end of the first third of the story, so the expectation would be 26 more years to get to the end of the comic. Argadi (talk) 01:05, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

The information comes from one of the interviews with the professors. I might poke around and try to find it later. Argadi (talk) 08:21, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Useful Info on Templates[]

Templates can be tricky to deal with. And development can be complicated by Wikia's caching of pages (at it's whim). It is sometimes useful to add ?action=purge to the end of URLs to tell Wikia to throw away the cached version for the page and read all of the templates again. Argadi (talk) 01:48, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Old News[]

I am saving old news that I remove from the news section of the main page here for no particular reason except that I have found I eventually always want information if I delete it completely. I know I can find it if I dig through the history of the news template, but it's more convenient to have it here.


The third Girl Genius Kickstarter has started. This one is to publish the fourteenth Girl Genius graphic novel, previously referred to as volume one of act 2. The title has already been revealed to be The Beast of the Rails, but now we are told that the official name of "act 2" as a whole is The Second Journey of Agatha Heterodyne. This is supposed to be a smaller Kickstarter campaign, focused on printing the book, with minimal extras. This campaign will be over in 20 days, so if you want to support it, don't delay!

The Foglios have posted a Girl Genius podcast, perhaps the first of many. They (Kaja Foglio, Phil Foglio, Carol Monahan - business manager to the Foglios, Linda Strout - assistant to the Foglios) talk about Girl Genius, answer some reader questions (more or less), and mention that the current Girl Genius graphic novel (in its online incarnation) is about to end and that the third Girl Genius prose novel (Agatha H. and the Voice of the Castle) is about to be released (November 11 in the US).

The Girl Genius Volume XII Kickstarter ended on June 2, 2013. 4,441 backers pledged a total of $389,079; just over seven times the $55,000 goal. In addition to being able to print volume XII in hardcover and softcover, the stretch goals reached will allow the Foglios to, among other things, reprint the previous 11 volumes in softcover, hire a part-time business manager, and optimize the Girl Genius website.

Girl Genius and the Rats of Mechanicsburg is now in Beta for iOS devices. An Android version should soon follow. As announced by programmer and project manager Stephen Beeman, "the goal is to release [for] Android and iOS simultaneously."

A new Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, is now in progress. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. Six stretch goals have been announced so far and have already been achieved. The total raised is now is just over $105,000 with just under 1700 backers and twelve days to go.

The Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, is in its last few days. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. The total raised is now is just under $150,000 with nearly 2500 backers. Seven of the eight stretch goals have been reached; there probably won't be any more. This project includes two exclusive items: a Mamma Gkika medal and patch. If you want one or both of these, pledge now before it's too late!

The Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, is in its last few days. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. The total raised is now is just over $155,000 with nearly 2500 backers. Nine of the eleven stretch goals have been reached; more may be posted soon. Aside from the limited-edition volume 13 hardcover, this project includes two exclusive items: a Mamma Gkika medal and patch. If you want any of these, pledge now before it's too late!

The Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, is in its final hours. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. The total raised is now is just over $160,000 with nearly 2600 backers. Ten of the eleven stretch goals have been reached. Aside from the limited-edition volume 13 hardcover, this project includes two exclusive items: a Mamma Gkika medal and patch. If you want any of these, pledge now before it's too late!

The Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, is in its final hours. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. The total raised is now is just over $165,000 with over 2600 backers. There are now a total of sixteen stretch goals, of which the first eleven have been reached. A stretch goal of particular interest to die-hard Girl Genius fans comes at $200,000. If this total is reached the Professors have promised to make a real "How We Make Comics" short film. Aside from the limited-edition volume 13 hardcover, this project includes two exclusive items: a Mamma Gkika medal and patch. If you want any of these, pledge now before it's too late!

The Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, is in its final hours. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. The total raised is now is over $176,000 with just under 2800 backers. There are now a total of sixteen stretch goals, of which the first thirteen have been reached. A stretch goal of particular interest to die-hard Girl Genius fans comes at $200,000. If this total is reached the Professors have promised to make a real "How We Make Comics" short film. Aside from the limited-edition volume 13 hardcover, this project includes two exclusive items: a Mamma Gkika medal and patch. If you want any of these never to be re-printed, re-minted, or re-sewn items, pledge now before it's too late!

With less than 24 hours to go, the Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, is down to the wire. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. The total raised is now is over $182,000 with nearly 2900 backers. There are now a total of sixteen stretch goals, of which the first fourteen have been reached. A stretch goal of particular interest to die-hard Girl Genius fans comes at $200,000. If this total is reached the Professors have promised to make a real "How We Make Comics" short film. Aside from the limited-edition volume 13 hardcover, this project includes two exclusive items: a Mamma Gkika medal and patch. If you want any of these never to be re-printed, re-minted, or re-sewn items, pledge now before it's too late!

With only a few hours to go, the Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, is really down to the wire. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. The total raised is now is over $190,000 with over 3000 backers. There are now a total of sixteen stretch goals, of which the first fifteen have been reached. A stretch goal of particular interest to die-hard Girl Genius fans comes at $200,000. If this total is reached (and it's getting close!) the Professors have promised to make a real "How We Make Comics" short film. Aside from the limited-edition volume 13 hardcover, this project includes two exclusive items: a Mamma Gkika medal and patch. If you want any of these never to be re-printed, re-minted, or re-sewn items, pledge now before it's too late!

Volume XIII: Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City was complete as of Friday, December 27, 2013. Phil Foglio announced the title in his blog on December 28, 2013. He also announced that he and Kaja are taking a two month break. They will return to updating the main story on March 3, 2014. Until then, Christopher Baldwin will be filling in by illustrating the first Girl Genius radio play the Foglios ever did.

Version 2 of the Girl Genius Paper Doll App is available at the Apple store. New high-resolution Girl Genius Paper Dolls have been available for a while now

A deck for a card game called Pairs, featuring art by Phil and Kaja Foglio, as well as an additional deck featuring art by Cheyenne Wright, will be produced by Cheapass Games.

Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City has been nominated for the 2014 Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story. Congratulations to Phil, Kaja, and Cheyenne!

Girl Genius and the Rats of Mechanicsburg is available for iOS in the App Store and some Android devices on Google Play. All Kickstarter backers should get an email by March 27 with the unlock code for their bonus content. See the Kickstarter update or this Girl Genius Adventures blog entry by Kaja for more details.

The Girl Genius main story has started up again. It has now entered Act 2, and the volume number has been reset to 1.

The "new look" to the Girl Genius website, mentioned three weeks ago at the end of a blog entry by Phil has finally appeared. So far, it appears to be a new, more Steampunkish theme overlaid onto the old content, but there is now the option to bookmark individual pages of the comic through the web interface.

The art for the Muses Pairs deck is now complete and can be viewed at the Cheapass Games website, along with the art for Cheyenne's Professor Elemental Pairs deck.

The Girl Genius Kickstarter project to print volume 13, Agatha Heterodyne and the Sleeping City, has been successfully funded. The base funding goal of $55,000 was reached in well under 24 hours. The final total raised was $219,327 with 3,378 backers. All sixteen stretch goals were funded including a serious short film (as opposed to the goofy one that already exists) on "How We Make Comics" as the final goal at $200,000.

A new video, Professors Foglio & Foglio accept the Chilling ALS Ice Bucket Challenge!, can be seen on the Girl Genius Video Youtube channel, as well as on the main comics page.

The Foglios have returned from England, where they attended LonCon 3, the 72nd World Science Fiction Convention. They and Cheyenne Wright have been nominated for a Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story, which went to Randall Munroe for xkcd: Time at the Hugo ceremony on Sunday, August 17. During their trip, Cheyenne Wright filled in with a guest story, 'Homecoming King'. The Foglios posted a Hugo wrap up page immediately after their return, but the main story has resumed as of Friday, August 29.

Thank you for your enumeration of the extras[]

The lists of extras and double-page spreads are a nice addition to the wiki. Thank you for the work.

(Going back and looking at old comic pages is a tough job, but someone has to do it.) 24.91.82.29 10:31, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. I am very pleased to know that someone finds those pages useful. Obviously, I am doing this for my own enjoyment as much as anything else or I wouldn't be putting in so much work, but I was also hoping that my efforts would be helpful to other Girl Genius fans. My original impetus was to help myself, because I got sick of hunting for certain pages in the online comic over and over. My major fear now is that the website upgrade that was promised as the last stretch goal of the Girl Genius volume 12 Kickstarter, if and when it finally happens, will break all of the links on this wiki, or, at least, on my pages. -- William Ansley (talk) 12:43, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
One of the reasons for using a template for links to the individual comic pages was to make transitions easier. Hopefully we can automate that switch, but double-page spreads might take hand-editing. Argadi (talk) 10:43, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
I looks as if we may find out how easy the transition will be rather soon. Based on Phil's recent blog post, it seems as if the website redesign has been done and will go live next week. (I wish he would stop posting all of his Girl Genius Adventures updates to Kaja's account.) I need to start learning how to work with templates; there are a lot of things I would like to do with them, if I could figure out how. -- William Ansley (talk) 12:03, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

Please leave comments on your edits[]

Especially when making cryptic changes to magic files like MediaWiki:Wikia.css. It's useful to know the effect you were aiming for so I can watch for the change and see whether the effect is appropriate. Argadi (talk) 10:16, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Image Border Display on this wiki[]

This image shows up with a border in the Community Central Wiki, but not here:

Group58.png

Even though it should: [[File:Group58.png|border]]

Well, something changed somewhere. I now see the border around this image as well as around the tables of contents in the articles on this wiki that have one. I suppose that this is due to the wikia admins turning off javascript and CSS sitewide, due to a recent (as of August 2015) security concern. I guess there must be CSS local to the GG wiki that turns off these borders. -- William Ansley (talk) 20:08, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Regular expression to convert "web style links" to GG llinks[]

In case anyone's interested, here is the regular expression (GREP pattern matching) string I wrote to replace "web style" links to pages in the Girl Genius comic with GG link template links:

Search pattern:

(\[http://www\.girlgeniusonline\.com/comic\.php\?date=)(\d\d\d\d\d\d\d\d)(#\.[A-Za-z0-9_]{11})?( )([^]]*)(\])

Replacement pattern:

{{GG link|\2|\5}}

This is the syntax used in TextWrangler, a Macintosh text processor, but it is very close to the syntax for regex in Perl. The search expression should match URLs from before the redesign of the site and URLs after the redesign that end with tracking codes:

Old URL example:

http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080806

New URL example:

http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20081107#.VQ8Yg5PF_7U

I'm sure it can be improved, but it seems to work. I just moved this section to my talk page, since I originally put it in an inappropriate location.

Other Archived Stuff[]

Agatha asks why her weasel is so valuable and discovers that Klaus Wulfenbach had the wasp eaters destroyed. Also, the vespiary squad teams Tarvek sent into hiding haven't resurfaced; so, as far as anyone knows, Agatha's wasp eater is the only one. Agatha also discovers that Colette knows Gil from his student days in Paris, when she and Gil, along with Wooster, were companions in adventure.

Useful links[]

Angle problems[]

Please don't use an angle bracket directly in the chronology. Some wikia software think it's and HTML tag and it messes up searching. (Instead use &lt; which appears as <.) Argadi (talk) 02:02, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I realize that I've done this before and you have already warned me about it. This was a careless slip and I will do my best not to repeat it. -- William Ansley (talk) 11:51, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.[]

Thank you. Once I've worked on the rest of the cards I shall continue on the edits. I feel this will probably become a constant 'work in progress'.  Salutări amicale, Blitzengaard (talk) 20:59, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Momentary Confusion[]

The part you corrected wasn't written by me; the small paragraph I wrote you left untouched according to the notice I received. In the meantime feel free to correct anything or move things as needed as I'm not happy with the formatting of some of the images (which may be a lag issue thanks to my current poor connection). 

Salutări amicale, Blitzengaard (talk) 17:48, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Girl Genius Errors mailing list[]

I'm trying an experiment. I have created a Google group to serve as a central clearinghouse for reporting and tracking errors in Girl Genius.

The idea is to reduce the number of duplicate error reports sent to the Foglios and to give those Girl Genius readers who are interested a way to see if an error has already been reported. If enough people participate in this group, then—ideally—the number of error reports the Foglios see for any given mistake that readers spot in the comic will be reduced to one.

The types of error I am talking about are:

  • Update errors, such as missing updates from any of the regular places the comic is too be found: the main website, LiveJournal, Facebook, Deviant Art, etc.
  • Website errors such as broken links, missing files, website down, etc.
  • Text content errors such as typos, misspellings, or punctuation errors in dialog balloons or in the text in the drawings
  • Inconsistencies in names, such as Margarella Selnikov vs. Margolotta Selnikov or inconsistent spellings of names, such as Zardilev vs. Zardeliv
  • Art errors, such as Martellus von Blitzengaard being draw with a flesh-and-blood had in place of his mechanical one. More minor art inconsistencies, such as the change of a character's eye color should not be reported.

A moderator, initially me, will send an email to the Foglios for each error, crediting the first person to report the error, unless they prefer not to be so credited. If the Foglios or their agent desire to subscribe to this group, they will, of course, be allowed to.

Anyone can send an error report to this group, using the email address below:

girlgeniuserrors@googlegroups.com

Emails sent by people who are not members of the group will be held for review by a moderator and will have to be approved before being posted to the website and sent out to all of the members. Members emails will automatically be posted.

If you want to be on the mailing list for error reports, look at the messages on the website or be able to send messages to the list without moderation, you will need to subscribe to the group, but you will need to have or create a Google account to do so. If you have one, please use the link below to request membership:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/girlgeniuserrors

I intend to grant membership to anyone who asks for it, but this group is intended to be used only for reporting errors, not to become another discussion group for Girl Genius. If you have any questions, you can contact me through this wiki. Posting to this talk page is probably the best way to reach me. -- William Ansley (talk) 04:50, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

The user list is better[]

The user list problem you discovered seems to be at fixed. Thanks for discovering and mentioning it. Argadi (talk) 09:10, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. And thank you for following up with Wikia Central about the problem. -- William Ansley (talk) 11:12, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Can we fix this so all new users get a message?[]

Help:Welcome tool

Thanks for cleaning up Agatha's swains![]

I'm not very wiki-literate.  About the picture, it's so big that the Lars text was in a really narrow column and the only way I could find to fix that was to make it not be next to text, but on a line by itself.  You seem to have solved the problem with a less drastic method. Bkharvey (talk) 07:13, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Programming the web page widgets[]

Do we get to program things like the "recent activity" widget and the recent comic page discussion links?  It seems like someone, likely you, updates the latter by hand, because it doesn't always change quickly.  And for the former, I wish it didn't include things marked as minor edits.  How is the page programmed?  Can we write Javascript for it? Bkharvey (talk) 23:20, November 29, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you[]

Thank you for your extremely tactful treatment of my stupid edit.  Of course I was confusing the two ancient-being-released-from-the-crypt incidents.  Duh. Bkharvey (talk) 20:11, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

Please delete User:bkharvey/tarvek[]

Apparently you have to be an admin to delete a page, even in your own user space.  So, please delete User:bkharvey/tarvek, which I guess I was supposed to rename to the main article rather than copy/paste it.  Thanks.

I have deleted the page. I'm glad to help. -- William Ansley (talk) 22:51, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

Book links[]

Just out of curiosity:  I see you added a link to the print volume next to a GG_link.  But that's not the practice on other pages; is there a particular reason you did it here? Bkharvey (talk) 06:21, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

Where is this? Could you please provide a link? -- William Ansley (talk) 04:27, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, in the References at the end of The_Incorruptible_Republic_of_the_Immortal_Library_of_the_Grand_Architect. Bkharvey (talk) 04:30, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
I think you are referring to a mistake I made when I was trying to edit the wiki while I was too tired to concentrate. I believe I have removed it. If you can still find a link to any print volume on this page, please let me know exactly where it occurs. -- William Ansley (talk) 04:42, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
Here you go:
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Sorry, I just wasn't grasping what you were trying to tell me until now. (I made the mistake I was thinking of elsewhere.) I'm afraid the reason I did this is that I am just not terrible consistent in how I write my references at different times. At that moment I just felt having the book title in the reference would be helpful and, since I put it in, I made it into a link. Some day, perhaps, I will decide on a standard and go back and make all my references conform to it. Of course, what I should really do is start a discussion on how references should be written in this wiki and try to get a consensus from the users; maybe I'll try that some day, but I would want to think about it more first. -- William Ansley (talk) 05:00, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
Nah, I don't think it's that important to be consistent about it.  Better not to put obstacles in the way of people adding to the wiki, is my vote.  I was just curious whether you had some reason in mind. Bkharvey (talk) 05:17, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

Moonbark[]

Thanks for putting some meat on his bones!  I needed the link while updating Agatha so was too busy with her to put much effort into him.

I created the initial page, but others added content as well. -- William Ansley (talk) 03:44, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

How did you get the picture without the speech balloon?  Some Photoshop wizardry?

I did use Photoshop, but it was more painstaking fiddling than wizardry. It took a long time and I'm unlikely to go to quite so much trouble again. A Girl Genius wikian who went by the handle Billy Catringer was a wizard with the Gimp image editing software and was an indefatigable image scrubber. Alas, he hasn't been active on the wiki at all for a long time. -- William Ansley (talk) 03:44, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Is it some kind of official right thing to refer to lords by their common name rather than their title, or than the whole megillah as I had it?  Or are you just opposed to two-line page titles?

In the case of the British aristocracy, I believe you would generally refer to someone such as Brunel as either Lord Moonbark or Major Brunel, depending on the context, but you generally wouldn't use the whole thing, unless you were introducing him. However, I'm hardly an expert. I guess partly I am opposed to long page titles, but I also think that using a common title, such as Baron, for the beginning of multiple character article names is annoying, since when you start typing a link and autocomplete kicks in, you have to either take your fingers off the keyboard and use the mouse to choose between the multiple matches or you have to type more letters until you get a unique match. Another problem with using titles as part of article names for characters is that titles are more likely to change than names, For example, we have a page with the title Captain Vole, which certainly isn't accurate any more. -- William Ansley (talk) 03:44, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

P.S. Speaking of Agatha, after reading her talk page I'm thinking of trying to replace each of the historical sections with, e.g.,

Mechanicsburg

Main article: Agatha Takes Mechanicsburg

After entering the town, Agatha has to cope with:

  • Fake heterodyne Zola
  • Hogfarb's Resplendent Immolation
  • Recombining the mentally separated sections of the Castle
  • Attacks by everyone in Europa, most notably Klaus
  • Gil's attempt to bring her to Castle Wulfenbach
  • A kidnapping by Tweedle

... each with links.  The current text of that section would move to the new page and could even be expanded.  Would that be okay? Bkharvey (talk) 05:40, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

We should consider making those pages under Agatha. Agatha Takes Mechanicsburg would be a link to Agatha Heterodyne/Agatha Takes Mechanicsburg. Argadi (talk) 14:05, February 13, 2018 (UTC)
Bkharvey, your ideas for revising and splitting up the page on Agatha sounds good. And it seems to make sense to make these pages subpages under Agatha Heterodyne, as Argadi suggested. However, I would prefer that the summary passages in the main Agatha article not be lists of links but paragraphs containing links. As far as creating subpages goes, I wasn't sure how you would go about doing this, so I did some checking. It is surprisingly hard to find specific help on doing this, but one way to make a subpage is just to type the appropriate URL into the address bar of your browser and the wiki will offer you the chance to create the subpage. To reduce typing, go to the page for Agatha Heterodyne, and then, in the browser's address bar you should see:
http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Agatha_Heterodyne
At the end of the URL type: /Agatha Takes Mechanicsburg. In the address bar of the browser, you should now see:
http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Agatha_Heterodyne/Agatha Takes Mechanicsburg
Press Enter. The URL will will change to:
http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Agatha_Heterodyne/Agatha_Takes_Mechanicsburg
You will be given an opportunity to create a new page:
Create article Agatha Heterodyne/Agatha Takes Mechanicsburg
I hope this proves helpful. -- William Ansley (talk) 04:13, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

header change is fine with me[]

I'm happy with your change.  I agree that the Top category was pretty useless.  Even the remaining top-users category is useless, as can be seen by who heads the list.  ;-)  Now I just have to write a bot that edits Tarvek 20 times a day so he gets into the Characters list!  Bkharvey (talk) 03:16, September 4, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for starting the next volume[]

Thank you for spending time on the overhead of keeping this wiki amazing. Adding the next volume has been on my list, but I've been traveling. (Away from home 27 of the last 37 days. But now I'm going to sleep in my own bed for over three weeks straight and will make some time for this wiki and my other projects.) Argadi (talk) 09:29, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

Question about fair use[]

I'm working on "Quotable lines" and I really want to include an entire page (She's a Heterodyne?!  You knew this?! etc.)  But that's probably against the rules, right? Bkharvey (talk) 03:39, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

You bring up a good point. Before I go on, let me take this opportunity to apologize for never responding when you asked me a similar question quite a while ago. It's a big topic and I feel I need to take my time to answer it fully. In fact, I started to do so now, and realized that my response was getting far too long and I didn't have time to finish it. I may complete and post my thoughts at some future time, but for now I'll try to give you a (for me) short answer.
It isn't clear exactly what "the rules" are for allowable use in this wiki. (There is the Copyrights page, but the wiki is has gone beyond the limits of what is recommended there, I would say. And, as stated there, that page is far from a legally binding contract itself and may contain outdated information.) Even the concept of fair use isn't entirely clear cut. My guess is that if the Foglios wanted to do so, they could probably have this wiki shut down for going beyond fair use, but I think the chances of that happening are vanishingly remote. (Let me make it plain that I am not a lawyer and my statements are matters of - hopefully informed - opinion.)
Personally, I think quoting all the dialog on a single page is fine; as you noted in the past, I have done it myself. I don't regard a single page to be a "complete work", especially not when the dialog from a page is quoted without the images. -- William Ansley (talk) 14:35, June 8, 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm going to go with the thought that if the Foglios learned about it, they wouldn't mind -- it's not interfering with their income stream, if anything attracting new readers. Bkharvey (talk) 20:27, June 8, 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I agree completely. I guess I didn’t make myself very clear, but that’s what I meant when I said the chances of the Foglios trying to shut down this wiki were vanishingly remote. We are doing nothing to interfere with their sales, we promote their comic to the best of our abilities, and we obviously are concerned with preserving their own rights to their work.
In fact, the only comments they have ever made about this wiki have been approving ones. — William Ansley (talk) 01:29, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

I agree with everything above (as another non-lawyer) but I think it is important to note the the Professors won't ready the wiki for legal reasons (they don't want to be accused of stealing ideas) so they haven't reviewed it in detail to see if it matches their idea of fair use. But I do believe they would be pleased and not upset. Argadi (talk) 09:55, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

That's another good point. When the Foglios talk about fan sites, they have mostly commented on the fact that they cannot read fan fiction or story ideas online or sent to them by readers, but I have to agree that this wiki would also qualify as a site to be avoided as well, primarily because of the forums and talk pages. I know other people involved with this wiki have, in the past, asked the Foglios for a special limited usage license specifically for this wiki, but have either received no response or been turned down. I had thought that the primary reason for this was just a general (and quite understandable) reluctance to give up any of their rights to their work, but that fact that the Foglios don't dare read this site thoroughly for legal reasons would make determining whether to grant us such a license or not even more problematic. -- William Ansley (talk) 14:02, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

Crown[]

What, you didn't like the elegant stub-ness of my version?  ;-)  Bkharvey (talk) 07:44, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

I was content to leave the page alone in its elegant glory, due to time constraints if not its overwhelming elegance. However, a user who goes by FossilLord updated the page with a typo, which I decided needed to be fixed. Once I started editing, I decided to add links and ended up re-writing the page a bit as well. -- William Ansley (talk) 17:38, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

I hope you're okay![]

See headline... Bkharvey (talk) 03:17, October 20, 2019 (UTC)

Link Rules of Thumb[]

Sorry about jumping the gun on the edits and not realizing that there were punctuation conventions in place.  Just for background, I had to stop regularly reading GG about 4 years ago, and decided to get back into it by doing a big re-read.  I thought I'd help out along the way as I encountered errors.

I have a question about the links on names in the chronology.  In some cases, each occurrence of a name has a link; in others, it's only the first occurrence on the page, or within an area of the page.  It seems extravagant to have every 'Agatha' as a link, but what then is the rule of thumb?  I ask this now because the section I'm reading has a few names that definitely need links, so I'm planning to edit them.

Thanks!

PS is there a way to see how many pages the comic has gotten up to?  The last count I saw was from 2013.

Kreniigh (talk) 18:02, March 6, 2020 (UTC)Kreniigh

The number of times to link a name has no fixed rule. I would probably add more links than most editors, but probably only one per name per section. But linking every one wouldn't be a problem. (The Chronology has good coverage recently, but there are some older sections that could use a lot of work.) The number of comic pages can be seen in List of Published Volumes. (Sorry for the intrusion William.) Argadi (talk) 18:16, March 6, 2020 (UTC)
No problem, Argadi! -- William Ansley (talk) 23:41, March 6, 2020 (UTC)
Kreniigh, my personal rule of thumb is that only the first reference of each name in an article should be linked (which, if I recall correctly, is what is recommended by Wikipedia for their articles). In Chronology pages for the Girl Genius wiki, I link the first reference of each name for each section devoted to a specific page. In the chronology pages, I prefer to restrict the links to the "Characters" and "Names Used" sections, but it isn't wrong to put links in the other sections. -- William Ansley (talk) 23:41, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

question on search results after rename[]

I renamed the page "Lord Womble" to just "Womble" (leaving a redirect for the old name) because I recall you saying that leaving out personal titles was the new standard here.  That all worked fine.  But when I type "womb" into the search bar, I expect "womble" to appear in a popup below it.  But that doesn't happen until I type the entire name "womble."  What did I do wrong?  Thanks!  Bkharvey (talk) 21:54, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

I'd wait and retry tomorrow. Some fandom.com activities happen in on a schedule. For example, I just updated a double-redirect and the Double redirects page still lists the page I edited but crossed out. Argadi (talk) 22:20, April 29, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for responding, Argadi. Bkharvey, Argadi was right, you just needed to wait wait a bit longer. I am seeing the "Womble" pop up when I type "womb" in the search bar now. If you don't see it yet, you should soon, I imagine. -- William Ansley (talk) 03:02, April 30, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you both! Bkharvey (talk) 04:07, April 30, 2020 (UTC)

I don't mind the edits.[]

The edits are nothing I trouble my mind about. The edits are GOOD! I just don't like having my jokes in the Forum upstaged, by you repeating the joke I told, & posting it above mine, to look like you told it first. That's called "upstaging" somebody. I do mind that. Bosda Di'Chi 11:27, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

All good. Fences mended, & friends again. Bosda Di'Chi 13:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Nonces?[]

You started categorizing characters in Category:Nonces. I like that you've accepted the category for your use, but now I want to have a discussion about it. Do you want to discuss the particulars here or on the category talk page? ⚙Zarchne (talk) 15:08, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

I would prefer to have the discussion on the Nonces category talk page, which I have just created, I believe. -- William Ansley (talk) 03:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Good. Rant submitted. ⚙Zarchne (talk) 22:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Was your last edit to Talk: Nonces intentional or accidental? Argadi (talk) 11:40, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

I went ahead and assumed it was an accident. ⚙Zarchne (talk) 17:18, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

undid place switches of (!) and (*)[]

I rolled back your changes to move (!) and (*) to the beginning when I noticed you did them after I wrote the explanation (sort of) why they are suffixes in the Chronology Sigils Key. They could go first... if you're going to do that, you might as well get rid of the parentheses? I'm assuming nothing actually makes use of them (it would just be me?) which would have to be updated. And should define a stacking order, like !< for "sparking in flashback", which is why they were suffixed "<Agatha(!)" ⚙Zarchne (talk) 23:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Moved my response to Chronology Sigils Key talk page

Chronology coloring in dark mode[]

I have my preferences set to dark mode, and this doesn't work well on the Chronology pages: Screen Shot 2021-08-10 at 12.22.08 AM.png This happens because the template sets the background color but not the foreground color. See https://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/color

I would be happy to edit https://girlgenius.fandom.com/wiki/Template:GG_page_desc to fix this, if you happen to know how the CSS can tell dark mode is turned on! :)

P.S. I'm wrong; I don't need to know about dark mode. I should just set the font color to black whenever you set the background to some light color. Is it okay for me to go ahead with that plan? Bkharvey (talk) 00:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Couple of template questions[]

I'm looking for a template to create ... I guess they're officially called "bookmarks", like {{Mark|foo}} → <span id="foo">foo</span>. I can create it (assuming it can work), just wondering if it exists somewhere out there. Call it maybe "Mark" or "Thing"? "GGT"? ⚙

I'm afraid I'm not sure what you are asking here. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 23:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
I created Template:Id that seems to work so far. You put it around an entry in a list article and then you can link directly to that entry (I'm thinking from the Chronology) without it having to be the title of a whole subsection; it can just be in any table or bulleted list. ⚙Zarchne (talk) 01:51, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

What is Template:GG_link_BU_secure_error for? Do we still need it? An annoyance when trying to use GG link itself. ⚙Zarchne (talk) 19:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

That template is no longer needed. I created it during a period when Fandom switched over to using only secure URLs (https: as opposed to http:). Initially, this restriction was also applied to all external links as well, so none of the links to the Girl Genius comic website would work; since at the time, the GG comic links were all non-secure http: links. After that, Fandom stopped requiring external html links to have secure URLs and the GG website started using https: URLs (although some of the content—mainly ads, I think—on the GG comic website pages is still located at insecure http: URLs, causing warnings when you try to access the webpages through the website navigation menu, for example, at least in certain browsers). Feel free to remove that template. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 23:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Ah, okay. ⚙Zarchne (talk) 01:51, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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