Girl Genius
Girl Genius


Hi there! Welcome to the lab! --mnenyver 02:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I've been making anonymous changes for a while, I thought I'd attach a name to them. Argadi 04:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, and primarily on the most important page in the Wiki (IMNSHO)! Much Grass! — Zarchne 10:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
It's just an excuse to re-read the old strips. But now I need to work on remembering which names go with which faces. Argadi 11:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, yeah, whatever; so you say; nevertheless. — Zarchne 14:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad you appreciate my work, and I'm glad you think the chronology pages are important. Argadi 23:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


I set your rollback bit, more or less for the heck of it. Mnenyver could always unset it... ⚙Zarchne 18:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

"Berta" and "Tina"[]

Now that the dust is beginning to settle from the "Mad" dust-up, I think it would be best simply to redirect these two names to Eotain and Shurdlu, rather than treat them as valid articles. After all, there's nothing in canon to suggest that the names are valid within the story itself. What say you? -- that old bearded guy 02:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what is best. I left them separate because I didn't want to redirect without an explanation, and I didn't want to put the old names in the new article. I wouldn't object to a simple redirect. Argadi 10:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for doing all of those default sorts and category fixes. I was the last editor on some of those articles and I need to get better about remembering to set those up properly. --mnenyver 19:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. It's a partial payment for the fixes others have made to the pages I've edited. Argadi 20:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
However, categorizing The Works cards under the title on the card, even if the page is a redirect, was intentional. ⚙Zarchne 21:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
(Slow connection this week, so I can't do much.)
Is Dr Beetle the only one where I made that change? I think it would be good to have Dr Beetle in works index, but not good if the actual Beetle article doesn't say category: The Works. Argadi 00:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

And I see thanks are in order again for the difficult, and largely unheralded, work of fixing the categories for geography - by splitting it up into cities and towns, natural features, and so on. --Quadibloc 00:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, thanks for following up behind me, and adding basic things like links that I sometimes leave out. I do appreciate the help - even in cases such as the one just now, where I adjusted two of the three example links you gave for fonts. One was for von Pinn - she was speaking quietly, so she wasn't using her usual font. The other, for the madness place, was correct, but since the fonts are hard to distinguish on the online pages, while I was at it I replaced your example by one that used the font at a larger size. --Quadibloc 00:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you appreciate it, and thanks for improving the links. There's a lot to keep track of in the comics and the wiki (too much to keep in mind all at once) and we need to keep building on each other. Argadi 00:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Main page[]

The discussion links on the main page were going to Sun, Tues, and Thurs when I checked them just now. I commented them out for now. Are the templates easily fixed? --mnenyver 03:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that. When I added the time zone adjustment I didn't add it for all calls to #time. Thanks for reporting the problem. I set reminders for me to check correctness between 0 UTC and 4 UTC for a few nights and a week from when you noticed the problem, but I think the problem is fixed. Argadi 08:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Let's hope that works. *crosses fingers* --mnenyver 13:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

"It's a major award!"[]

In rekognishun ov all hyu verk, hy present to hyu dis major avard. hehe --mnenyver 22:18, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Jageraward.jpg

Thank you for the recognition of my work and superor speling. Argadi 00:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

ThankyouthankyouTHANKYOU for responding so fast! I really want feedback so I don't screw up this beloved wiki. BTW, how did I do on the Master Payne page?

I want to thank you for your hard work as well. I see that you've been busily cleaning up after minor mistakes I've been making and will need to learn to avoid, such as creating /Mad pages without putting them in the Mad category, ensuring that my page on Madeleines uses the same spelling as the comic, adding links to the relevant pages for characters or items I mention without using the square brackets at least once. This - along with your work on the GG chronology - is work of the "unsung hero" category, and thus deserves great praise. --Quadibloc 17:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the praise, but I can't let it be forgotten that you have fixed/improved many haphazard changes I've made. (And a hint: When I want to improve the wiki but I don't have time for a significant project, I use the special pages, for example the uncategorized pages report shows me when category:Mad (or something else) is missing, or just use Special:Random and try to add more links to/from the page I land on.) Argadi 17:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


How do I know you exist? Ordinary 09:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I think I edit, therefore I edit saying "I am". Argadi 10:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


I uploaded Image:Mode_2.png for comparison in the article The madness place, but I'm not sure whether it really depicts phase 2 or phase 3. The font is more normal, but she looks pretty angry... Any ideas? Ordinary 09:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

(Sorry for the delay in answering, this message was buried in my mailbox when I was out of commission.) I don't really have an opinion on this, it could go either way. The comics are drawn from someone who wasn't actually there when Agatha was mad, so it's just a guess of what she looked like anyway. Argadi 20:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Page-By-Page forum links[]

I noticed the template is creating links in Special:Wantedpages. Can this be changed? --mnenyver 20:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

It's because they look for a link for the forums. I don't know of any way to change it. (If you entered comments on every page the problem went away. More realistically: a robot could create the empty pages.) Argadi 23:28, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • On red links: Maybe the link could be removed for now? We could point people at the Page-by-Page forum index instead.
--mnenyver 02:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there a rush to get rid of the links? They've been around for months. I'd rather not just have a link to the forum index, as the new entries wouldn't have standard names and wouldn't connect back to the chronology.
I'd like to investigate what exactly causes the want links to appear, and see if there's a way around it. If the "want" entry is caused by the create link and not the "if exists", one possibility is to only add "create" links for volume VIII (that page and the main page), or only add "create" links for the past month or so (there must be a way to do date subtraction). That would limit the number of forum links on the want page. Argadi 02:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Any of those solutions sound doable. I just hadn't looked at the list of wanted pages in a long time, which is why I brought it up now. It's just that having a red link for every single entry in Chronology is making that tool a little difficult to use. --mnenyver 06:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I haven't worried about the entries. I've always figured that if there aren't two links to something then it isn't really wanted. The stuff you ignored is part of my test to see what updates Special:Wantedpages. Now we need to wait for that page to update (it's one of the pages that gets updated occasionally by the Wiki rather then being constantly up to date). Argadi 09:48, 4 December 2008 (UTC) (Update: wanted user pages apparently don't appear on the list. Updated the links, need to wait for the Friday update. Argadi 10:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC))
Thanks for looking into fixing this. It helps me a lot. :) --mnenyver 19:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


Also, I'm kinda thinking we're going to need page-by-page articles (for many individual pages, not necessarily all). I'm not sure how to tie this in with Chronology or how having those pages would help or hurt that section of the wiki. I'd like to work with you on a template for those pages and figure out how that should be organized in relation to Chronology.

--mnenyver 20:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd be glad to help. It would be nice to have a way to make a link to the pages from the main chronology pages: either an optional parameter in the current template, or a new template to make a standard link. In either case it would be nice if the file names used s generated name like the forum pages.
If there are many pages we probably want to make a special sub-category for them.
Could you give an example of one such page, the proposed topic to be covered in the page, and why the material is better displayed in the page context than in some other article we already have? That would help me understand the motivation for the pages. Argadi 23:28, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • And yes, I think I'll make a few mockups to convey what it is I'm wanting to do. I have a feeling you'll like it.
--mnenyver 02:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


I went through a few sections in VI, adding 'story' descriptions in the field indicated, but when I saved everything, the formatting went weird - not like the other pages. Did I misunderstand that field? -- Corgi 18:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what Story was meant for (probably things like Revenge of the Weasel Queen), but the field you meant to fill in is "Action". Argadi 20:15, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
[droops] It's never gonna get done at this rate. Is there a model-after somewhere? -- Corgi 20:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
[soldiered on] Done-ish??? Corgi 01:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Template Maintenance[]

If you're up to it, in addition to picking a color for the sketch links, could you add a "news" template too? If you want something more challenging, I'm not sure what's wrong with Otwit, but it should be replaced anyway with one to match the others' syntax. ("OT_tweet"? in retrospect, maybe should have called "GG_link", "GG_comic"... that's how it goes.) Then there's the LJs... ⚙Zarchne 22:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Pardon my density, but I don't quite grasp how the 'Template:GG page desc' set of templates actually works. Would you mind providing a demonstration, please? -- Corgi 22:48, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, here's a top level overview. I have no idea what your background is, so let me know which areas you would like more details on.
There are at least five aspects of the templates:
  1. There is a Wikia/Wiki table syntax designed for "easy" table generation. Wikia translates that into the corresponding HTML for the tables. See Wikia:Help:Tables for an overview.
  2. Wikia doesn't redefine everything in HTML tables. In particular you can specify attributes which wikia passes on when it creates the HTML tags. (Things like style="background:#FFFFCC;".)
  3. On top of the Wikia/HTML syntax, we have defined a particular layout for the tables we use for page descriptions. (Suggestions for improving the layout always accepted.) To get the layout consistent, there is a large amount of "boilerplate" that needs to be placed in every page description.
  4. Wikia templates allow repetitive text to be defined once and used many places (with substitutions). The 'Template:GG page desc' (like Wikipedia infobox templates, and many other templates) takes parameters (page id, page number, characters, etc.) and puts them in the correct place in the standard code. This means a) typos are much less likely, and b) if we want to change the style we can tweak it in one place and all of the places in the wiki that use the template get changed. When you say "names used = foo, bar", every use of {{{names_used}}} gets replaced with "foo, bar".
  5. In addition to simple substitutions, Wikia also allows "programming". You can compare strings (including string used for substitutions) and make decisions. For example, 'template:GG_Page-by-Page_Forum_Link' checks to see whether the forum page exists and uses either a "join" or "create" text and link. Take a look at 'Template:Recent discussions' for some real ugly code to figure out the dates of the last seven comics—real ugly, but it only needed to be developed once.
That's the overview. Let me know which of the pieces you want more details on. Argadi 00:43, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Finally tripping over this again - I get the purpose, but not how to use that one/that set of templates. I mean, I use the one to set up the infobox and where do I fill in the data? I guess I should just sandbox this for my answers, really... better way to learn. -- Corgi 23:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Another way to learn is through the "What links here" link (on the left side, under "Random Page"). For a template that link will show you which pages use the template, and you can examine the pages to see how they are used. Argadi 00:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Removing page number from infoboxes[]

Why are we doing this again? I thought having the dead-tree cross-reference was potentially more useful -- Corgi 20:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Because the online page numbers don't match the xylophthanatic ones? ⚙Zarchne 20:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I just checked one of the pages I changed today, Von Pinn. The page number I removed was the page number from the on-line version, so it didn't match the dead tree version. Almost all of the page numbers cited in this wiki aren't dead tree page numbers.
I could have put in both versions -- I could have used "Volume II, page 34 in the printed version, page 30 in the online version" (that's a bit too wordy), or I could have used the string from the chronology "Vol.II p. 34(030)" (but that would confuse people).
If there was consensus of the significant editors that every link to a comic should include page numbers of both on-line and printed versions (and an agreement on how to format the information) I would strive to follow the standard. But my personal opinion is that most editors wouldn't do that, and it wouldn't be much use. It would also be a pain to change all the references when 1) printed volumes come out (like volume 8 soon) or 2) when printed page numbers change (like volume 6 soon) -- especially because I don't know of any way to search for all the references.
It would be very useful if someone could come up with an automatic way to display both page numbers for a link. It wouldn't be that intellectually challenging to build a complicated template and call it from GG_link, but it would be tedious to get all of the cases in the template. Argadi 20:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
If you want to automatically add print and/or on-line page numbers to each wiki link, I have the start of the code to do it in my sandbox. All that needs to be done is put the expressions I made into templates, then build another template that knows how to convert the page ID ranges into page numbers. (There are probably only about a hundred ranges to worry about so far, and only half a dozen changes when the publish a new volume (or republish as with volume six.) Argadi 09:56, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Ah so. Good explanations, if vexing in the cause therefore (the mismatches, I mean). -- Corgi 22:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome[]

Hi Argadi,

Thanks for the welcome. Rej Maddog 06:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

'Wanted page' link[]

I found something in the list called 'Argadi/nosuch' but I can't figure out how to resolve it correctly without messing up your code. Might you take a look at it, please? -- Corgi 23:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I removed it. It was part of research on getting rid of the page-by-page links on the wanted page. (All I learned was I didn't know how to clean up the links.) Argadi 00:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Cast List VI[]

[looks at correction] Meh. I would have thought I'd tried that... there's a couple more visible brackets on one of the other cast pages, for prisoner names. I'll go clean those up now. So, I did it OK, otherwise? -- Corgi 17:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I didn't do a review yet, I just happen to catch that one problem. I won't do a review soon, but it's on my list. I'm going to wait until the chronology for volume VI gets finished and then look for inconsistencies between the pages. (I'd have plenty of time for all my projects, if the clocks didn't keep stealing the time.) Argadi 18:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Wish: A drop down list for categories[]

Right now in order to add a page to a category, you have to know in advance what the category is called. And in my fumbled brain case, how it is spelled. You have to do that for each category you want to add. Then if you have a special sort order you have to input that once for each category.

So can add a category have a drop down list or send me to a page with check boxes for each category and input fields that allow me to do gang punch (and judy) the shared parameters?

Wiki's should allow changes wiki wiki. Rej Maddog 00:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Ummm... the edit box will do autocomplete, at least in IE7, if you input [[Category: and the first letter of what you think it is. In fact, all the pages will autocomplete or even give you reasonable guesses most of the time. You could also have the Categories page up in another tab or window. -- Corgi 00:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I'll thing about this. My first thoughts are 1) a drop-down with the categories would be awkwardly long, and 2) Corgi's idea of a separate window seems good. The autocomplete is nice when it works, but it seems to be slower on longer pages (often too slow). I try to avoid typing anything, I like using cut-and-paste. Argadi 00:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes a drop down could get that way. There are ways around that.
I think the really useful thing would be a page of categories. Check boxes for for selecting a set of them . And a field to suggest the sort order for all selected categories at once. Rej Maddog 19:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
We've got some category cruft going on, too. We need a cleaner tree. -- Corgi 06:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
+1 . Categories of categories? Well definitely a limited list of prefered categories. Plus a meta-page for category help and suggestions. Without guidance the wiki can turn into grey goo. All the ideas are there but how do you find them? Rej Maddog 19:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
For instance: Images > Character Portraits, Geographical Images, Device Images, etc. Characters > Villains, Characters from Mechanicsburg, etc. The Tree page is easy to access, it's listed under Special Pages which itself is in the left sidebar. I'm not sure what you mean about a meta-page - each category has a decription, so unless you're talking about a single page with all the Categories linked, in indented form, with... their... descriptions... oh dang. I guess I could do that as a Meta item. *sigh* But you're going to have to help keep it maintained!
Argadi, is there some kind of template-fu that could do automatic adds to that kind of page? -- Corgi 19:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

View Source vs. Edit Page[]

They both seem to do the same thing. I feel uncomfortable w/o the edit page designation. The implication of view source is that you won't be able to edit. So if you need to get rid of one, I'd prefer you remind me I can edit. I know if I'm editing I can see the source. Rej Maddog 10:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

That was fast. Rej Maddog 11:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about—I didn't see it and didn't fix it. You might have been seeing a Wikia glitch, or a Wikia update that caused problems and was backed up. Argadi 14:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I am still learning how the wikia works. My current model is: It's haunted by slow ghosts/deamons.
AFAICT the wikia has some criteria for putting up one designation or the other. Sometime even though it says "View source" it will actually allow you to update the page anyway. Supposedly the difference is that you see "Edit Page" when you are allowed to change things and "View Source" when you are not. The page you get in either case seems to be the same with the same buttons. I can edit the source either way and get the preview of the edit. I can also press the save page button. It does not "look" disabled when I am "Viewing source". I haven't figured out whether I am prevented from actually updating the page. Very confusing. But not particularly important. At some point I'll have enough clues to figure it out.
Hmmm, maybe if someone else is editing a page you will get "view source" until the page is released. Then it goes back to "edit page". Which would explain the surprises, I was complaining about. Ah well, this is science. Need more data points. Rej Maddog 22:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
I just tried an experiment with multiple browsers (one signed-in, one not) and both were able to edit the same page (and I also tried the same section) without problem. This has been possible for a while—I've occasionally received error messages because I tried to save a page after someone else modified it. I've also never noticed "View Source" on pages I was supposed to be able to edit.
Maybe you ticked off one of the deamons. Think about your recent forum edits—did any of them express opinions that would be offensive to a deamon? Argadi 00:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this. If I did tick off deamons it apparently wasn't permanent. As I said more data before more theories. It is in my nature to notice small differences and wonder what they mean. If this happens again, I'll notice. If it doesn't then there really is NO problem. Again thanks for your curiosity and interest. Cheers -- Rej Maddog 03:28, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


When I make a post how do I get the fancy signature and ooooh. Just looked at the top of the page. Thanos007 15:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC) LOL. Thanks!

This is the at least the second time this week I solved a problem without doing anything. Maybe I should do less more often. Oh, wait, I'm already doing that… Argadi 18:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Expensive pages[]

Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls -- Did you notice this? Could we perhaps break down these pages into more manageable bites or come up with another solution? --m 20:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

It's caused because of the way we handle the "Create" or "Join" message for forums links. I've looked at tweaking the code, but didn't see a solution. I think getting rid of it requires removing the template code we have and using a different approach. Argadi 10:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
That might not be the only reason... At any rate, thank you for looking into it. :) --m 17:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
It appears that the problem category will be empty soon (unless my change gets reverted). The category still lists five pages, but the individual pages no longer claim to be a member of the category.
Do you think it would be useful (independent of that category) to split the pages? The pages are large, but I think it useful to be able to search at least a volume at a time. (At one point there was resistance to splitting the into volume pages from one really long page.) Argadi 17:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
As long as the pages aren't causing trouble, I can't see a particular reason for splitting them up. --m 20:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


Hy'm new to de wikja, zo Hy'm still tryink to figure it all out. Tenks for de velkome! -- JaegerMaedchen

I'm glad to have you around, but it was actually Axisor that welcomed you. Argadi 10:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

What causes the Contents box to appear?[]

This page has one. Your user page does not. The same is true for me. But my Madlab has one, yet my weekly page does not.

Hiding contents leaves you a box that allows showing the contents. That doesn't explain why it is there or not there in the first place.

Looking at the editable code doesn't provide a clue.

What's the secret?

Rej Maddog 01:49, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know. It might be the number of sections on the page.
I believe there is a way for control where the contents box appears, which probably also forces the box on pages where it doesn't normally appear. Argadi 09:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Magic Word: __TOC__ -- Corgi 16:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Corgi, that worked. Also the Manual of Style explains that the wiki adds a TOC when the page has five or more sections. Mystery solved. --Rej Maddog 01:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

A problem with my signature[]

I have been playing around with my signature page. After a lot of work debugging it I still have one problem. Getting it to "take". I have tried logging out and back in. I have put the same content on both Rej_Maddog/sig and .../Sig yet when I sign my posts with tilda's I still get the old signature format.

I am stumped. Any clues or secret knowledge? Rej Maddog 20:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I've never tried to use a custom signature. Did you click the "custom signature" box in your preferences? Argadi 20:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
You might want to ask Mnenyver and Jim, who is User:Gaarmyvet. They both have customs, and Jim's is like what you're trying. -- Corgi 20:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
As Argadi said, make sure you have the box checked for custom signature, then include the following in the box: {{subst:User:Rej Maddog/sig}}. I should probably put instructions somewhere for this. m (talk) 21:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
All righty. That was the missing piece of information. It's easy once you know the trick. Cheers --Rej¿¤¤? 00:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kaja[]

I love you. XD m (talk) 14:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Gender ratio bias[]

If you look closely at the data in List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio you will see that the ratio at birth is close to 1.0. The ratio's later on can differ greatly and in some cases reach 2.0 males/females. This implies a causality for the difference related to the increased mortality of females to males which was my point. --Rej¿¤¤? 21:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikia strangeness[]

Somewhere around Monday evening the wiki started to be unresponsive. To get a page to load I needed to opening in a hidden tab. I.E. it would load while I wasn't looking at it. But if I tried to switch tabs while it was loading I got a blank page. The flavicon was the wikia w instead of the girlgenius golden gear.

This didn't happen all the time but happened pretty reliably if the loading page was long.

Later the same day after it logged me out, trying to log in again simply hung after the password was entered. So I left it alone for a while. Now it is slightly past midnite Tue am DST and the login is at least working. I am still getting the hide or die page link trouble. No idea what's up. Any guesses? --Rej¿¤¤? 04:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I also noticed a few pages that didn't load the first time but loaded when I retried. Probably a general Wikia problem—if we keep seeing it we should ask them (or look for an announcement board). Argadi 09:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
It seems to have stopped, but Mnenyver and I were talking last night; we both got so disgusted trying to just load pages to look at them (forget editing/replying) that we gave up around... hm, 22:00 Pacific, maybe. It'd be nice if a courtesy message were sent out telling us what happened, but that's asking too much. -- Corgi 18:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Ur hum. And apologies. I was doing template experimentation in the Template: namespace. Now that I've started to read the Wikipedia manual on transculsion I see that what I did put a lot of pages on the task list. Probably slowing down the wiki server. I promise you I learn from my mistakes as well as find them. Now that I know how to make problems I can avoid them.[1] Thanks all for your patience. --Rej¿¤¤? 22:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it's you. It's probably just that ad issue. m (talk) 00:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


  1. Well, the first rule of a wiki is boldness.

Page by page preload[]

User:Rej Maddog/tc Indexes most of my template experiment.

User:Rej Maddog/Log journalizes my progress.

your help on the PbP Preload template is requested. I look forward to your questions and comments.

I have got it working s.t. it could be used for new page by page forums. Feel free to copy and tweak it.

If you want to see it safely in action look at User:Rej Maddog/Sandbox and press the link or create box. --Rej¿¤¤? 21:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

It would be very handy to have your preload code moved into the standard page-by-page forum template. (I'll make the edit if you don't feel comfortable.) Argadi 08:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you[]

for catching that Russian spammer. :) m (talk) 17:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Glad to help. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time. (Needed a quick break from work.) Argadi 19:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Just curious[]

What was wrong with my em-dash that you changed a little while ago? -- Corgi 09:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I think the &em; form is probably safer, it should work with all browsers while inserting the dash directly depends on the character sets supported by the browser (also, it hard to tell the difference between the long and short dash when editing in a fixed-width font). But I do use the handy insert guide at the bottom of the editing page to enter a long dash rather than using &em;.
But, to answer your question, that wasn't my edit. It was Renidar's edit. Argadi 10:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


Preloads are peculiar. Everything on them gets transcluded. Even the no-include stuff. I removed your addition. Though on thinking about it a link to the forum might be a good addition. The text that goes along with it needs to make sense on the actual pages it will appear.

Documenting the page is done for now on the talk side of the page.

I am still experimenting with final form. I am at the point where I need to put the pages in the right name spaces. Slowly unraveling name decencies on my experiment space. The live point won't happen until I modify the Page-by-Page forum create box. That won't happen until I get the helper templates moved and checked out. I want to be as gentle on template space as I can be to avoid long work queue's slowing the wiki. Well as much as I can anyway. --Rej¿¤¤? 17:05, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I suggest you put something in the comments to explain how the template is used and point to the talk page. We don't want someone to thing the template isn't used. Argadi 17:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Umm. The wikia suggestion is to name preload pages as aCategory/Preload. The suffix /Preload is supposed to be the clue to the pages use. When I can I will put something explanitory somewhere. Once I figure out where somewhere is.
I have started to add other /Preload pages one for each info box template. Then ones for generic main pages, mad pages and a main page associated forum. The last is a work in progress. For the rationale see the recent mad page discussion in the watercooler and the help name spaces. --Rej

We seem to have attracted a spambot[]

The Hello Everyone! page has reappeared. Exactly the same text as last time. Beyond deleting the page contents, you may have to lock down the page name as well. Good luck. --Rej¿¤¤? 10:01, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I didn't realize blocking the name was possible. I did it. (Not sure it will help much as they can use another name, but we'll see.) Argadi 10:17, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
It definitely helps. If they use another name then we know its more than just a 'bot. --Rej 10:29, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Wrote email to Wikia asking for help with cross wikia spam. They are doing some robotic cleanup on Freeciv and we now have the same posts. --Rej 02:14, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


Dear Argadi,

I have a new picture as Bangladesh Dupree from San Diego Comicon 2009, and would love to see it on my Wiki. I managed to make a text edit earlier (I removed my livejournal link) but images are not my forté. May I email you the photo from hotmail? Thank you very much for any assistance.



(I sent her a private e-mail when I saw this message, but by the time she read the message the problem had already been sorted out. Argadi 02:21, November 17, 2009 (UTC))


Thank you ever so for the advice Argadi. Most appreciated. :D --Synalon Etuul 00:09, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

What determines the contents of WikiStickies?[]

A pad of stickies appear on my home page (and presumably yours). They ask for help with various wiki pages. Pictures, information and so on. They also ask for the creation of redlinked pages.

This leads to the fun part. They are asking for the recreation of some spam titles because the deleted spam pages are now red links. This does not seem good. Confusion at best. Down right insidious at worst. Only titles that have been deleted twice are showing up on the stickies.

Anyway this is a heads up. Any thoughts? --Rej¿¤¤? 06:05, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I have no idea. I'd actually never been to that page before, it took me a while to find it.
I'll try to remember to protect spam page titles the first time I delete them from now on. Argadi 10:23, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

My preload experiments and the name "Sandbox"[]

Hi Argadi,

I have gotten to the next phase of experimentation with preloading pages and linking main pages to their mad and forum counterparts. In doing so I needed a canonical name for experimental pages. "Sandbox" is what I chose. In theory, I can do my experiments by previewing the pages and never saving them. In practice sometimes they will get saved. The favor I need to ask is that if you see the titles:

  • Sandbox
  • Sandbox/Mad
  • Forum:Sandbox
  • Forum:Sandbox/Forum

Please just delete them without prejudice so they can be created afresh in new experiments. Thanks for your help. --Rej¿¤¤? 03:29, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

No problem, glad to help. Argadi 10:54, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Look at the block log[]

AFAICT the last time you used it you blocked Wikia rather than your intended spammer. --Rej¿¤¤? 22:12, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that slip. Argadi 23:17, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
You are welcome.
I noticed you unblocked wikia, however it still has not welcomed a new user since December 23rd. So I am wondering if the unblock was effective? I looked at the user creation log. Users without talk or personal pages are not unusual. Maybe welcomes only happen after the first edited page.
I believe it is the first edit. I've seen several account creations since wikia started the automated "hello" without a response from Wikia. (What really confuses me about those incidents is why someone would create an account if they don't plan to edit.) Argadi 11:47, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
In that case why didn't get welcomed? That was me editing here last time before I logged in. Anyway we may just need to keep our awareness up. Cheers --Rej¿¤¤? 23:50, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that is suspicious. Just to be sure I tried to unblock again and got "Error: Block ID not found. It may have been unblocked already.". As you said, we need to keep watching. Argadi 00:18, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
By the way, Wikia just mentioned me when I logged out and tested the wildcard protection. Argadi 12:08, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
Yep, I think your other experiments woke wikia up. I am wondering if the most recent entry in the block log goes unnoticed until...? I have no other explanation for why it is working now but not for my anonymous edit. --Rej¿¤¤? 17:54, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Less spam, more sleep[]

Several of the Russian spams start off with Mailing Lists ...(Рассылки рекламы), then the rest of the title is a variant of previous title wording. I am sure specifying the full title limits the match to the titles exact wording. If you were willing to invest the time to learn a little about regular expressions you could probably block the lot of them with something like 'Рассылки рекламы.*' or maybe just 'Рассылки рекламы'. I cannot be sure on what the wikia accepts as expressions because I have no way to experiment. As they say in the x-files "The truth is out there."

Ahh, found this help The Flex 3 Regular Expression Explorer from Ryan Swanson. -Rej

This is an English wiki. We can probably be strict with Russian speakers and ban broad ranges of titles. --Rej¿¤¤? 02:24, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

When I last checked I couldn't find any way to block anything but an exact title. The spam is mildly annoying, but hardly a flood. Feel free to ask Wikia or the spam team if there is a wild card block mechanism, but right now I have limited free time and won't be investigating.
If we can use wildcard blocking for subjects, something like "*ы*|*л*|*к*|*и*" (block anything containing any one of those four characters) would probably do a good job on the Russian spam. Argadi 11:43, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that sounds right. You would want to append '.*' The dot matches any one character. The asterisk matches 0 or more occurrences of the previous character. The combination will match any number of anything. I didn't know till I checked. The explorer helped a lot. --Rej¿¤¤? 23:46, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
There are many different forms for regular expression (although ".*" as you describe it is common). Why do you think the Flex 3 syntax is used by Wikia? I haven't found anything about using any form of wild cards for page protection in Wikia (and I just read Help:Page_protection again since you seem so sure wild cards will work). Argadi 00:06, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
I don't remember seeing wikia regex doc either. So I am guessing. But guess and test is a good procedure. I figure if wikia uses regex and hasn't documented it then they are assuming everyone knows it. Which is not correct but points to their regex being a common one. The explorers definition seems like a good place to start. One good test would be to ask a wikia guru. Another might be to browse one of their block lists to learn by example.
Try something. If it doesn't work try something else. is my usual procedure. Edison made a light bulb only after making 1001 dark bulbs. Of course dark bulbs are safe. My technique fails if the try or the test break something irreparably. Fortunately this is a wiki so a failure is usually no worse than dropping Othar out a window. :) --Rej¿¤¤? 10:22, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
I tried. As documented, protection works for a page. Neither "*" or ".*" are treated as wild cards in the protection log. Argadi 10:39, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
Partial progress counts. So do negative results. Now we need to find out why you got them. Time to talk to the guru's e.g. User talk:Uberfuzzy. Done. I left a note on his GG user page and called it to his attn via email. --Rej¿¤¤? 18:18, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Internal Chronology[]

Hi Argadi,

I added a Cleanup tag to the Internal Chronology. I am curious as to how you settled on the month of February for Day 0 and October for the proposal/banishment. I get a totally different reading from this from the clues Phil dropped and from some dramatic reasoning. See stuff on Talk:Internal Chronology

leap day[]

Hi Argadi,

A while back I modified the gg link templates to filter time through the #time: function. It cleverly knows that leap day falls on March 1 this year. So neither the page link nor your leap year link worked. I finally got around the problem by using subst: to get the raw link into the discussion page then hand modified the pointer to 20100229. That worked. I commented out your correction.

Now I wonder if we will have to change it back when the Foglio's find out the consequences of their actions. It may louse up their forward and back links to the page. Anyway until they do the any gg link to that page using the template will not work as intended.

Cheers --Rej¿¤¤? 16:50, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous sigs[]

Hi Argadi! Thanks for the welcome, and nice to "meet" you. Since I've finally created a handle, I was wondering if I should, or if I even can, go back to sign the entry I had posted anonymously. The one contribution I've made so far was on Higgs' fan theory page, the one at the bottom about hats and "smart guys" and so on. Danka! -- Madame Six Shooter 17:48, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, feel free to update history, just don't break history. With a wiki the goal is making the final result reasonable. Adding sigs (like you did here) and fixing typos after the fact is great, changing opinions after the fact will make you look bad. For example, if on Monday someone writes:
Higgs is a robot from Mars, as anyone can see. -- Sir Render 19:99 Monday
and on Tuesday it gets changed to:
Higgs is a Heterodyne construct, as anyone can see. -- Sir Render 19:99 Monday
then Sir Render will look bad because everyone can see the history and many saw the original. But if the edited version is:
Higgs is a robot from MarsHeterodyne construct (edited on Tuesday, I don't know what I was thinking yesterday), as anyone can see. -- Sir Render 19:99 Monday
then Sir Render doesn't look so bad. (And, of course, no sigs in the main articles.)
By the way, it wasn't really me who welcomed you. Wikia has a bot that goes around welcoming new members when they make an edit, and it uses the name of the last registered user to make an edit. (But I am glad to have you as a new contributor.) Argadi 19:30, June 26, 2010 (UTC)


Monday's comic has caused a wiki quake. Forum:Naming main articles for female characters

Rej¿¤¤? 18:04, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help.[]

Thanks for moving the misplaced comments. My accuracy seems to be way down this week. Anyway, thanks for your help --Rej 09:10, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad to help, I've had many of my errors fixed. Argadi 10:31, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Anon User Edit My User Page[]

Whoever it was left a few insulting remarks, unsigned.

Any way this can be prevented?

yours, Bosda Di'Chi

I believe we could ban unregistered edits, but we generally receive good help from unregistered users (and that's how I and others got started). I'd rather not make that step, so all we can do is be vigilant and clean up quickly—many vandals are hit-and-run, and others won't stay if their damage won't stick around. Argadi 18:46, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

I will go with your advice--Bosda Di'Chi 21:16, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

My apologies. (Insert exasperated sigh here.)[]

I thought that I was in my own sandbox when I edited the help page. Billy Catringer 15:09, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


As the ip address of our culprit keeps changing I've protected the index page minimally for a month. --Rej¿¤¤? 00:54, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

The good(?) Doctor Mittelmind[]

Hi, people have picked up on Moloch's referring to Snaug's boss as Mittelmind but they seemed to have missed an earlier reference giving his title of Doctor. You are the one who has brought up the issue of respect for people and their names, so I am surprised to find you perpetuating the title less last name. Things ought to be put on the right track before there is too much fix-up work left to do. --Rej¿¤¤? 19:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Could you provide a reference so I can review it? Calling someone a doctor can be a gesture of respect, and doesn't imply that the person is entitled to the title of Doctor. While I want to give him his full name and title, I'd rather not over-reach. Argadi 21:30, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
Here is where Fräulein Snaug first refers to him by name and title.
Talk:Castle Heterodyne inmates has the reference too. I didn't find it until after I wrote you. At first it wasn't completely clear she was talking about her boss, now it is. --Rej¿¤¤? 04:18, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
Aaaarg! I just noticed the references use different spellings. Now vere gonna hev trubble. --Rej 04:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Chronology backlog[]

Why not invite some trusted, eager, editors to help out? Pick one or two you like and ask if they would lend a hand? See how it goes. Iron out the bumps. Then recruit even more help.

I notice there is almost a one year backlog. So some thought should be given to what is not working yet? Does the work need to be simpler? Would a template for each entry help?

First goal should be to get the current pages updated as they come out. Then have someone work backward towards last year. Have someone work forward. Give an award to the one who crosses the midpoint first. :) We can't do this all by ourselves. With the Hugo win we should be getting a new crop of energetic folk. If there is something specific they are asked to do they might even get in the habit of helping. --Rej 04:39, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm to busy to do much, and cheerleading others to do the work is not my style. Even in its current state I find it useful for locating pages. Feel free to encourage others to work on it. (There are disadvantages to keeping it totally current. Lagging by a week or two gives better context for what is important and often fills in more names and useful information.) Argadi 21:49, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Chapter XI title are out.[]

Kaja has updated the chapter subheadings. I will leave it to you to do the honors of updating the XI Chronology headings. Cheers Rej¿¤¤? 20:52, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, I hadn't noticed. She did fewer than usual — she often adds titles every three or four pages. Argadi 12:06, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

20110704 Thanks for help with the synopsis[]

Thanks for adding the links and a more precise description of Tik's weapon. 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 05:28, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad to help — just wish I could force myself to carve off more time to make the changes I want to make. I'm glad you (and others) keep moving. Argadi 01:41, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Kaja has put up new section headings[]

Again I will leave the honors of adjusting Chronology - Volume XI headings to you. 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 02:45, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, it's been a long time. She must have spare time -- maybe the professors should add another project. Argadi 08:18, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Time for Volume XII? 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤?[]



Thanks for adding links to my edit. I was falling asleep at the keyboard as I wrote it, and I didn't feel like tracking down those pages to link to the article. I really appreciate what you did; you saved me some time. : ) ~Mysteria Femina~ 14:35, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Offer of design assistance[]


My name is Peter and I'm the Content Production Manager at Wikia.

You're doing a great job on this wiki, it's so well organized! Was wondering if you'd be interested in some main page design assistance- like some cool custom headers with custom font ? Things like that to make your main page really pop.

Lemme know!

Peter 01:36, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the offer. I started a discussion (forum:Offer of design assistance) based on your offer. The general (but not universal) response is that we would like some assistance, but no one seems to have the time to work with you on changes.
Feel free to jump into the discussion I created if you have some specific suggestions for the wiki. Argadi 12:31, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

page counts[]

Thank you very much for fixing up the page count information I added to the List of Published Volumes. I guess tables do work properly in this wiki, *I* just coundn't make them work. Do you have any tips for working with tables in this environment? I created one in visual mode, then switched to source mode and back and the "source code" for table seem to stay visible in visual mode. (Frankly, I wish this site just used html. I don't find the "wikia source code" to be any simpler to use.) --William Ansley 17:53, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

You know something, I'm going to Read The "Fine" Manual, so never mind. It just took me a while to find it. --William Ansley 18:50, November 9, 2011 (UTC)
In addition to the manual, I usually use examples. I find tables I've done before (or someone else has done) and copy them. I also experiment, using Preview many times, or using my sandbox page. (You can create your own Sandbox if you haven't.) Argadi 01:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I find examples enormously helpful and I have to thank you for providing me with a fine one, which I have expanded on (perhaps too far?). I didn't take the time to find one when I made my first attempt to update the List of Published Volumes.
I have made a sandbox for myself, which I have already found very useful. I do have a question: Is it possible to cancel an edit-in-progress? It seems to me there was a cancel button available when I was editing pages some time ago, but I no longer see it. Thanks again for your help. --William Ansley 04:53, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
I haven't found a cancel button with the new editor, but the back-arrow works. Also, I typically edit in a separate tab so I just close the tab. Argadi 10:52, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Chronology XI page breaks[]

I see you have updated the page breaks. Good. I just wanted to let you know it is alright to remove any of those that I put in that don't correspond to the Foglios. I consider everything temporary until canon speaks. What we really need is to update the template for the items so we can specifically note location for each page in its own box. When the Foglios are specific there is an excuse to put it in with the other text information but when they are not it gets left out.

20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 20:22, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure there's a need to update the template -- we can put extra section breaks in. (And I think there are some previous sections where the location is "several places around...".)
This didn't used to be a problem -- the professors would put many section breaks in. (That section list on the official site is one long list. I can't wait to see what happens when it breaks (somewhere around volume C.)
By the way, any comments on Forum:Offer of design assistance? Argadi 20:58, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Argadi,

my name is Peter and I'm Wikia's Content Production Manager.

We have an autographed copy of Girl Genius: Agatha Heterodyne and the Guardian Muse and were wondering if you'd like to have it to giveaway to your community as you see fit (maybe run a little contest and select a random winner?).

Let me know your thoughts! Thanks,

Peter 00:10, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Contest/raffle rollout.[]

The rules and where to amend them are in the Forum:Should we have a contest? stuff. I was waiting for your weekend updates and will start to roll out the contest on Mondays page. See how that works then maybe mention it on the main page.

Cheers 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 00:15, December 12, 2011 (UTC)
I was reviewing them and responded while you were posting this message here. Sorry for the delay in reviewing the proposed rules. Argadi 00:38, December 12, 2011 (UTC)
No problem. We can adjust anything that needs adjusting. That's why I put it in a template. I just wanted to get our end rolling. Can you contact Peter and see the arrangements work for him? My hope is to have this contest mostly run itself. With as little extra time on our part as we can get away with. 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 08:03, December 12, 2011 (UTC)
His responses have all implied that anything we want goes, and he'd rather us pick the winner. Argadi 09:51, December 12, 2011 (UTC)


I have a very stupid question. How do you type "|"? I don't know which key does this, & had to copy & paste.--Bosda Di'Chi 18:02, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Chronology ref by id.[]

A while back I modified the Chronology helper template so that the comix page id could be used as an anchor.

For example Chronology - Volume XII#20120116 will get you to today's entry. 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 05:59, January 16, 2012 (UTC) AFAICT this should work retroactively for all the entries.

That's great, I should go back and use that in the comment I made yesterday (unless you did already, I haven't checked).
We should also get that in the page-by-page forum template. Argadi 09:12, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

When editing preloads put comments on talk page[]

Preloads do not handle noinclude in the normal fashion. They are actually included in the preloaded stuff. Which means any meta comments and categories need to be on the talk side of the page. Other than that you did a good job of automating the extra link. 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 07:28, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

FYI GG link upgraded[]

After thinking about it for a while I realized the wiki could compute the volume from the date id. I made some helper templates Template:GG Volume and Template:Id index for that and then modified Template:GG link to link to both the page and the chronology. I will get around to updating the page-by-page preload when I have time. What we have now will work fine til then.

20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 07:16, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

LJ link poll[]

Did you do the poll about the LiveJournal link? I answered truthfully "I didn't know it was there" and then tried to use it. Maybe you need another poll answer option "I know about the link but I read GG at work and my corporate firewall blocks LiveJournal"? That would be my situation now! NathanTheRammer 16:58, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

That's an interesting idea, but Wikia polls can't be modified once they are started. Or rather, modifying them resets the counts. Argadi 23:34, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, for the upgrade, Argadio. -- Billy Catringer 00:55, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring Template:Recent_discussions[]

I were hoping that my change wouldn't break anything.
The problem that i was hoping to fix is that it do not update to late on the day I am in Europe/Sweden and it looks like it do not update until past 13:00 on the days it should update i think that it would be bather if it changed around midnight GMT even if no comic is published yet.
Do you have any idea for fixing that? 23:41, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Requesting help with a time line experiment[]

I need to find out if something will work from a computer other than mine.

User:Rej_Maddog/Pages_Timeline_Reader has html code which can be copied into a local file then used with a browser. It displays the GG pagebreaks as an mit simile time line. It works on my machine but will this work in general? Could you try this once and give me feedback?

I need to know just if it works. If it does work then giving feedback on if this might be a good thing would be useful too.

The original idea was to have simile time lines as part of the pages on this site. Then to do some other internal story time lines as well. The page breaks are easy because the data is available so these are my test cases. They are also useful to me when I am trying to track down pages.

I've tried talking to wikia support but I have had trouble explaining the concept in a dramatic way. Before I try again I need to know if I can use this as a demo for them.

Thanks in advance, 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 02:53, July 27, 2012 (UTC)


Last March I noted that things would be changing for me some time in the future. By next month that will be sometime in the past. My ability to access the internet will be curtailed by moving and an uncertain future beyond that. FYI, 20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 14:56, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki comments[]

Hi, Argadi :) I perused your site before editing, as I was not familiar with Girl Genius at all. Speaking as a first time visitor, the site was very easy to navigate and didn't confuse me at all. I would say it's very well laid out, and seems to be categorized pretty well, so no worries.

As for my info box, it's a wikia-wide template. I can certainly attempt to tweak the colors a bit, and I appreciate the feedback! Raylan13

(talk) 17:40, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Seige or Siege?[]

I'm quite sure or I wouldn't have made the correction. That doesn't mean I'm right however. I have emailed the Professors, hopefully phrasing the email so that their assistant will realize that this is a matter that needs a rapid response. I will be very willing to undo my corrections if they turn out not to be correct after all, and eat a large, public helping of humble pie.

However, I just don't believe that Phil Foglio would deliberately use an archaic spelling of a word in the title of one of his books that will make it harder to find and which will probably be accidentally/inadvertently corrected by many people other than me, especially without specifically mentioning that he was doing so, when the alternative is that he simply mistyped a word that is incredibly easy to mistype. -- William Ansley (talk) 17:07, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

Connection Issues[]

help, please? today is march 13, 2013. when I go to (my home page!), I get some dumb site that says it expired on 3/10/13 and is "pending renewal or deletion". yet some of you have commented on today's strip! how do I get there? thank you kindly. 15:13, March 13, 2013 (UTC)mellyrn

The professors were late in renewing their domains. The problem was fixed, but sometimes it takes a while for the new information to propagate to all Internet providers Argadi (talk) 01:03, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

26 Years?![]

If by "unless there is a highly unusual coincidence," you mean unless someone else was using the name William Ansley in Girl Genius Labs, then, no, that was me. I am William Ansley here and in Girl Genius Labs and in the Girl Genius Yahoo discussion group, and most other places on the web I frequent, not to mention in the real world.

Well, if it does take 26 years to get to the end of Girl Genius neither Phil not I may get there. I am only a few months younger than Phil Foglio and in 26 years he will be at least 82. Not an impossible age to live to or even at which to continue drawing three full pages of a web comic every week, but I am sure it will be more of a challenge for him by then, if he is still doing it.

What are you basing this on, by the way? I have heard or read many statement by the Professors about how log the series will take with widely varying estimates, although all of them seem likely to be too short at this point. -- William Ansley (talk) 02:49, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Pgp nav now in page creation preload[]

Pgp nav now in page creation preload. I will gen next Mondays page to test the preload. If you want the placement the way you tried it today change the div align to left rather than center.

Tried it. It works. Please note that red links get created. This will create a temptation to click that link to start a new page. Unfortunately that will not invoke the preload. The proper way to create a new page is with a creation box such as the one on the Forum:Page-by-Page link or use the ones below:

20px-1298786.png Rej¿¤¤? 18:09, July 3, 2013 (UTC)


Sorry about that IT was part of an email i was talking that got put into the page, I though I edited the Great Movement Chamber page to say something different don't know how that happened sorry. On another note is there a list of outdated pages I can work off of? I think this wiki isn't providing an aqueduct account of the story line and pages need to be update. Please reply on my talk page--FossilLord 18:59, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

Awesome thanks, don't suppose you could try asking people to help? need anything put it on my talk page.--FossilLord 00:48, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
Awesome suggestion may i ask we go with a version like this?
  • Look at [:Category:Stubs] to find the pages people have marked as needing work.
  • Read your favorite section of the comic and think, for each page, "where should the wiki point to this page?" Often you will find the link, but if you don't you have a page that needs work.
  • When you find an eror, search for other occurrences of that eror. (Spelling, or logic.)
  • Review the Admin Dashboard. Keep an Eye out for Orphaned pages, Dead-End pages, Double Redirects, and Wanted pages.
  • At the top of the page there is a link for "Random Page". Click that a few times and you will likely find awkward wording, or a place needing more links or citations.
  • Finally if something bugs you but you don't want to fix it, or do not have time, just add a Stub tag or a note in a talk page and someone else may come along to work on it, be sure to explain what you think the problem is and leave links to the relevant comic pages if you can!.

Request for removal of redirect page[]

Could you please remove the redirect page below? I don't seem to have the ability to do so.

As I understand it, this page was created automatically because Billy Catringer made a typo when he created the page "MIstress Hide-me" the first time and then renamed (moved) it, which automatically created the redirect page. I can see why this happens and, in general, it seem like a great way for Wikia to work, but it seems to be causing the autocompletion of "MIstress Hide-me", when I type it after a "[[" as an article link, to come out as "MIstress HIde-me" (the 'I' after the 'H' in "Hide-me" is capitalized). This is really beginning to drive me crazy when I am working on the Chronology. Thank you. -- William Ansley (talk) 17:48, April 18, 2014 (UTC)

Glad to help, there's no reason for that page. Argadi (talk) 22:47, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! -- William Ansley (talk) 13:39, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

Request for removal of image[]

I'm sorry to have to ask you to clean up my mess, but I either don't have the the necessary rights to delete images I've posted or I can't figure out how to do so. I was tired when I finished the zoot suit Oggie image and I typed Dimo in the file name and then uploaded it before I realized my mistake. Could you please remove the image file called "Dimo zoot suit drink smaller.jpg" that I recently uploaded? Thank you very much for the trouble. -- William Ansley (talk) 12:53, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

1. Don't grovel. Deleting it isn't a big deal, and neither would have been leaving it.
2. You probably could have renamed the file—clicking the arrow next to the edit button. There might have been a delete on that menu as well.
3. You can't test 2. because you certainly can delete and rename files now. Don't let your new sysop powers go to your head.
Argadi (talk) 14:06, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
1. I'm sorry that my message came across as groveling. I was just trying to be polite, but I do tend to overdo it.
2. I couldn't figure out how to get to the page where I could see the edit menu for the image at that time. I didn't realize the file name was a link.
3. Thank you for the sysop rights. I will be careful.
William Ansley (talk) 02:35, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

"Rides herd on"[]

Thanks!--FossilLord 00:41, April 28, 2014 (UTC)


Thank you! {high pitched evil chuckle}


I created a category for the Corbettite Monks, but I left out a tee. I cannot delete the page it created nor can I rename it. -- Billy Catringer (talk) 21:47, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

The trick (which I eventually remembered) is to remove all uses of the category. Then the Delete option appears. Argadi (talk) 00:10, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Add comments to my edits[]

Thank you for the reminder, I will add comments to the CSS. -- William Ansley (talk) 12:55, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for creating the Humongulus page, Argadi. I really do appreciate it. -- Billy Catringer (talk) 00:39, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Missing page link[]

Argadi, there is no link between the main page and the page for this Friday, 20150206. -- Billy Catringer (talk) 13:56, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Everything seems correct to me. Could the problem have been the main page hadn't updated correctly (old version cached by wikia)? The error when you click the link is "correct" because the comic hasn't appeared yet. Argadi (talk) 14:35, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Added next week chronology and discussion pages[]

As you can see, I added the chronology entry for the week of February 9 and the discussion pages for Wednesday, February 11, and Friday, February 13. I think I did it all correctly. I just copied the code from Monday's (February 9) discussion page for the other two and adjusted the dates. Does the form on this page still work? -- William Ansley (talk) 15:30, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

The forms on the page-by-page forum do work, that's what I do. I usually also create the next Monday so someone editing the Friday page doesn't see a red link and try to create the page just by clicking the link.
Your pages appeared, but a while afterward some of the links to the pages were still red. That wasn't you, it was Wikia. I added "?action=purge" to the pages with the red links and wikia reloaded them correctly. Argadi (talk) 18:12, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
I have added the discussion page for Wednesday. I wasn't sure if the discussion forum form had been updated to include the navigation links. I will use it from now on. -- William Ansley (talk) 22:49, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Welcome message template?[]

Is there a template or copy and paste "code" for the welcome message that Rej left at the top of my talk page, back when I started out here? I just replicated it manually, with the necessary adjustments (I hope), on the talk page of a new user, but I am hoping there is an easier way. Thanks! -- William Ansley (talk) 04:13, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

At one point there was an automatic feature where Wikia left messages on the talk pages of new users on each wiki. It was left in the name of the last registered user to make a change.
It was a little strange. Sometimes the message would be left by "me" (ok, but weird), other times it would be left by some random person who didn't participate in the wiki much but had just come in to make one edit (not a good choice for someone to pretend to offer to help).
I suspect that feature no longer exists as I haven't seen it happen in a while. I don't know whether it was disabled for this wiki or for all wikis on Wikia.
Thank you for continuing by hand. It makes more sense to come from someone willing to help. Argadi (talk) 08:24, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
It seems as if it is still happening some of the time, until recently anyway. I see that back on June 8, 2015 a user calling him/herself DS7522 created an account and made an edit and got the welcome message on his/her talk page, which signed by me, and I know I didn't do that one. By looking at the user log, I also see that there have been many user accounts created that don't have profile or talk pages, but I think in those cases (certainly in the ones I have checked), the users have made no edits on this wiki.
I will try to keep on top of new users who make edits in this wiki and make sure they get a welcome message if it doesn't start working again by itself. This particular instance of the problem, may be due to the recent javascript shut down on Wikia because of security issues. I have tried asking about this on Community Central; I'll let you know if I get an answer, if you like. -- William Ansley (talk) 20:13, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Images Galore[]

Many thanks. I'll eventually get the hang of the different codes and formatting. In the meantime I'm adding images where needed, such as cards from The Works in my collection. 

Salutări amicale, Blitzengaard (talk) 10:54, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Garbled Page (Finn MacCool's talk page)[]

Argadi, I think the problem you were experiencing on Finn MacCool's talk page was due to the fact that you accidentally typed curly braces instead of square brackets when creating a link to Geoduck42's talk page. I fixed the typo and I think the page is normal now. -- William Ansley (talk) 18:28, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for catching my error. Argadi (talk) 22:07, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

We're invisible![]

This is odd, but I just noticed that you, I, and Billy Catringer no longer show up in the list of users for this wiki. If you view the user list page and view only administrators, you don't see any of us. However, I can still edit the wiki and I still seem to be an admin here. Do you have any idea what might be going on? -- William Ansley (talk) 20:14, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for mentioning it. I just asked Wiki about the problem. Sort by edits and there's a strange Poweruser account with 140348 (on the users page) but only 13 edits if you view stats. Argadi (talk) 21:10, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
From Wikia support: "This is actually a known bug and we are actively working on a fix. Please stay tuned." Argadi (talk) 12:44, March 30, 2016 (UTC)


How about we make William Ansley a bureaucrat? ⚙Zarchne (talk) 18:56, June 11, 2016 (UTC)

That seems appropriate based on his contributions. Thanks for reviewing the list of users. Argadi (talk) 19:18, June 11, 2016 (UTC)

Thank for the upgrade![]

Argadi, thank you very much. With great power comes great responsibility! I will try to prove worthy of my new role. -- William Ansley (talk) 19:42, June 11, 2016 (UTC)

"Lingua Europa" page[]

No fair!  They post stuff on Facebook???  That means I can't read it unless I sell my soul to the devil.

Anyway, the first paragraph says the language is German, and the second paragraph says Romanian.  One of those has to be wrong...

And the link to Wikipedia doesn't match the quoted text, which doesn't make sense anyway; at least in the second half of the 20th Century, the lingua franca of science was/is English. German was strong in philosophy, though.

(I get it that you didn't add the wrong stuff; I just thought that if you're interested in the page you might want to edit it more thoroughly.) Bkharvey (talk) 18:34, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

These are good comments to add to the Lingua Europa Talk page. That way anyone who wants can see it when they review the article. Argadi (talk) 19:25, November 22, 2017 (UTC)
'kay. Bkharvey (talk) 19:32, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

Where'd you go?[]

You seem to be missing from the user list for the Girl Genius wiki right now. I have no idea why this might be, but I thought you'd like to know, if you didn't already. -- William Ansley (talk) 04:04, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Shh. I'm on an undercover operation. Argadi (talk) 11:13, November 24, 2017 (UTC)
Mums the word. I just hope you aren't planning on "retiring" from Wikia. -- William Ansley (talk) 14:35, November 24, 2017 (UTC)
And I'm back. The world will never know how close it came to disaster. Argadi (talk) 10:34, November 25, 2017 (UTC)
While you were gone, did you change the top_users menu item in Communities in the navigation menu at the top of the Girl Genius wiki pages so that it shows users with recent edits instead of the most edits overall? It definitely is an improvement, as far as I am concerned. -- William Ansley (talk) 23:04, January 2, 2018 (UTC)
Nope. At least I don't think I did. And I don't remember getting a mind-wipe. (But, then, I wouldn't, would I?) Argadi (talk) 01:24, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Making a user an admin[]

I am inclined to make bkharvey an admin. Do you agree with this? Should I start with something lesser, such as giving him rollback? I'd welcome your feedback on this. -- William Ansley (talk) 23:04, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

An excellent idea. I gave him Rollback--he was the user with the most edits who didn't have at least Rollback. Argadi (talk) 01:20, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

No more editing the wiki on my iPad[]

Thanks for undoing my messed up edit. I was using my iPad Pro and trying to search within the page. I had no idea I was somehow removing characters. I won't be trying that again. -- William Ansley (talk) 12:05, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. I thought I was sufficiently paranoid to always use Preview before Publish, but to catch this error I would have had to use Show changes cause I wouldn't have noticed those changes with a quick Preview. Argadi (talk) 13:53, October 3, 2018 (UTC)
I also always use preview; but, as you say, it wasn't enough to catch this error. -- William Ansley (talk) 01:49, October 4, 2018 (UTC)

Has Bkharvey done enough to merit promotion?[]

I will defer to your judgement, Argadi, but it seems to me that Bkharvey may have participated in this wiki enough that he merits being upgraded to Admin. My main point of hesitation is that the bulk of his contributions are to the discussion forum, but he has contributed to articles as well. What do you think? -- William Ansley (talk) 18:31, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

(Well, this is a little embarrasing as Bkharvey will likely read this.) I'm personally not into "badges" so I don't think of making someone an Admin as a reward, and I don't think I've made use of my Admin roll in over a year. (Or Rollback either, Wikia seems to have a good handle on spam.) But situations will come up where special access is needed. I have a reminder to check the user logs occasionally and the last time there were several admins contributing regularly so I didn't see a need to add more Admins.
Summary: I don't see a need to add admins, but if some become less active Bkharvey would be a good candidate. Argadi (talk) 18:53, June 28, 2019 (UTC)
I apologize for putting you into am embarrassing spot, but I am not aware of any private channels of communication available in Wikia/Fandom. Thank you for answering my questions despite that. -- William Ansley (talk) 20:44, June 28, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah. Special:EmailUser used to work, but is disabled on Argadi (talk) 20:59, June 28, 2019 (UTC)
It was thoughtless of me to ask my question about a specific user in the way I did and I apologize to Bkharvey if he reads this. I very much appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts on the whys and wherefores of granting administratorship. I will keep that in mind for the future and I won't single out individual forum members if I have any future questions to put to you regarding the administration of the Girl Genius wiki. -- William Ansley (talk) 11:47, June 29, 2019 (UTC)



AZS (talk) 18:24, July 4, 2019 (UTC)

Actually, it's both important and urgent. Were these 3 messages really that much of a bother ?

Emergency Alternate Account (talk) 12:27, September 30, 2019 (UTC)

As you should have noticed I left your three messages. Your message was sent. I just don't want continued nagging in this wiki. Argadi (talk) 12:33, September 30, 2019 (UTC)

Acknowledged. Emergency Alternate Account (talk) 12:35, September 30, 2019 (UTC)

Did you use the visual editor? The main problem appeared to be a nowiki tag.[]

Did you use the visual editor? The main problem appeared to be a nowiki tag. I don't understand what to do with this. Bosda Di'Chi (talk) 01:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure what information you need so I'll go over the situation in detail.
You asked for help editing some Mad page, and I fixed it. There was a nowiki tag around the support tag you put in, which is (obviously) why the support tag wasn't recognized by the wiki. I was wondering which editor you were using when you couldn't get the edit to work. Argadi (talk) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


My heart stopped when it said you said "retired", but it looks like you mean from your real-world job. If so, congratulations! (Um, I hope.) ⚙Zarchne (talk) 20:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it is congratulations. I was lucky enough to reach a point where I can have a reasonable lifestyle until death unless civilization collapses or I live an unreasonably long time. With some money for travel, but my current travel plans just are visiting an ailing mother-in-law and visiting vaccination clinics as a volunteer. The Wulfenbach lands will need to be a virtual visit three days a week until Europa travel restrictions change and museum/business/tourist site closures end. Argadi (talk) 22:30, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Nonces reversion was accidental[]

Yes, my reversion of Zarchne's changes to the Nonces Talk page was accidental. I apologize, but I have no idea how it happened. -- William Ansley (talk) 21:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm quite upset about this. I looked at recent changes and see that I am supposed to have rolled back Zarchne's revisions to the Nonces Talk page and marked it as a minor edit yesterday. I don't remember rolling back any changes yesterday or in the last few weeks. While I don't think that it is particularly likely that my Fandom account has been hacked, I have changed my password. If I did this accidentally somehow, I shouldn't be allow to roam around unsupervised. If anything like this happens again, I think I will just give up and delete my account. -- William Ansley (talk) 22:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Location period response[]

You have my apologies for not getting back to you right away. I responded on my talk page, to keep the conversation in one place. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 18:23, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Shortened Chronology Introduction[]

I acted on a suggestion you made (if I recall correctly) about removing the "GG Chronology Introduction" template from the individual chronology entries. I didn't want to remove it entirely, but I shortened it by moving the current volume information into a new template: "GG Current volume information". The Chronology overview uses both; the individual chronology entries use only the new shorter introduction. Let me know what you think. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 05:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

It's an improvement, thank you. Argadi (talk) 01:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Changes to page-by-page discussion forum index page[]

Argadi, I wanted to bring your attention to a major change I just made in the hope of getting your feedback. If you have reason to believe what I have done was a mistake, please feel free to revert it. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 18:01, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for reaching out to me. The change looks good and seems like a a good idea. (There's no need to notify me of changes. I haven't made much time for the wiki, but I still visit the recent change page at least daily. Even when traveling -- right now I'm seven hours east of my usual time zone. It's very annoying to have the comics post seven hours later than usual!) Argadi (talk) 04:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. From now on, I will assume that you will be aware of any changes I make to the wiki and that you will contact me if you have any questions or comments about what I have done. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 14:38, 8 May 2022 (UTC)