Talk: Jägermonster

Tenk hyu! How cood hy fawget abut de hatz? --mnenyver 04:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Jägerresidence[]

I respectfully dispute removing the residential category. The Heterodynes created them, they're Heterodyne minions, they're bound to Heterodyne lands, therefore: Mechanicsburg. Where they were born individually is irrelevant once they've been reborn as Jägers.

Corgi 06:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, the residential category it had was Castle Wulfenbach. Certainly some of them have fetched up there, but that still wasn't right.

I have no objection to recategorizing them as from Mechanicsburg, however. -Acacia 06:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Kinderjäger[]

Or, it could mean that Oggie had a child or a family before he was Jägerized. We just don't know the order of events. --mnenyver 20:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

just as a side note: "kinderjäger" would mean people who hunt children while the children of jäger(s) would (rather) be called "jägerkinder" Finn MacCool 20:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC) A side note to the side note--both terms could be used. Bosda Di'Chi (talk) 17:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Jägershots?[]

Is this still available anywhere online or for sale? I would love to see these! --mnenyver 17:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I am a web god! Behold: http://web.archive.org/web/20050211010541/studiofoglio.com/girlgenius/jagermonster.html

-- Vikingkingq

*sniff* Hy luff hyu. (Edit -- aw, man! I could only get the first one! Did anyone save these?) --mnenyver 08:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Poke. Poke. Look below! Vikingkingq

Well, I see these as being active: http://web.archive.org/web/20041205062022/studiofoglio.com/girlgenius/jagershots/jagershot.001.html http://web.archive.org/web/20050708001106/www.studiofoglio.com/girlgenius/jagershots/jagershot.005.html http://web.archive.org/web/20041205064937/studiofoglio.com/girlgenius/jagershots/jagershot.006.html http://web.archive.org/web/20050829123348/www.studiofoglio.com/girlgenius/jagershots/jagershot.010.html

--Vikingkingq

Saw them! Thank you so much. I wish they'd put them all up on the official site again. Fonny schtuff! :) --mnenyver 15:03, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit: found a new one! http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5027/jager002sl9.jpg -- User:Vikingkingq

There's one in ebay. The direct link appears is too long for here, but just search for "Jagershot Tasty Enemies" and go and grab it. Unfortunately I don't know which of the missing ones this is. Cheers: Jari

The link isn't that long: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250388248136 Argadi 13:53, 6 June 2009

Isn't that #1? (looks) No, drat. That's either 3, 4 or 7. But I remember it well. -- Corgi 21:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Anthropophagy[]

You don't suppose that Jägers got the anthropophagy reputation from eating revenants, which might taste a little like bugs, eh? ⚙Zarchne 22:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Hat Worship et alia[]

I have mine own theory on the "hat worship", a reputation for eating babies and drinking human blood, and several other Jeager characteristics. Military tradition filtered through comic opera, old movies, and the legacy of the Grimm and Anderson fairy tales.

While the Foglios may not consciously realize it, a lot of it seems to be taken from the classic European "fairy tales" and other depictions of soldiery from the Hundred Years War. This long, nasty war left Europe littered with wounded soldiers, deserters, and cashiered (fired) troops, from which we get stories like "Stone Soup", about soldiers on their own in a semi-hostile land. Many of these troopers were of German, Prussian or Austrian background. There were also Swiss and Flemish mercenaries. All spoke some Germanic language, hence the comedic factor was not quite wiped out by Nazism later on.

As any military veteran can tell you, it is a punishable violation of uniform regulations to appear without your hat. "Out of Uniform, Soldier!" The Jaegerkin were all supposedly once regular soldiers/sailors. Hence they must have their hats with them at all times! It's only fittin'!

I derive this theory from the fact that a lot of the oddnesses of Jaeger uniform comes from Hundred Years War designs. This stuff was so common in the 1930's films and childrens illustrations that it's kind of subliminal.

But yu gots to be un Altgorl 06:09, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Jägers or Jäger (plural)?[]

I object to the recent edits to recast the plural of Jäger as though it was German. The Foglio-verse operates according to its own linguistic conventions, and a group consisting of more than one Jäger is always described in-universe as "Jägers," pluralized as though it's an English word, not a German one. Examples are here ✣ , here ✣ , and here ✣ . I'd like to roll these edits back, but would prefer to get consensus first, so what do people think? -- that old bearded guy 04:02, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

No, I think we should obfuscate the issue by reverting that, keeping others, and make other changes as well. And not wait for consensus. ⚙Zarchne 08:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I think we should be consistent with the Canon. Can anyone find any places where the comics use "Jäger" as the plural form of "Jäger"? Argadi 11:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

here ✣ ⚙Zarchne 15:16, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Come again? It's "Jägers" in that one, as elsewhere. -- that old bearded guy 17:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Um, yeah. Sorry for the confusion. I'm not in favor of "Jäger" over "Jägers", either — and I reverted it on 31 October as above. There are, however, a number of examples of "Jägerkin". ⚙Zarchne 05:03, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

on this page ✣ you could argue about whether augie sees only maxim and has just not the time to say "a jäger?" or whether he sees more and uses "jäger" as plural Finn MacCool 20:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Not only is that quite a stretch, it doesn't necessarily violate the rule that words such as jäger should be treated as English and subject to the same rules for plurals, as singular noun forms can be used as adjectives ("headgear", "a head case"), to indicate collections (especially synecdochically, as "fifteen head of cattle"), or to indicate types ("nerves of the head and face"). What was objected to, I think, was not so much the use of the singular to indicate the plural in one's writing ("fifteen jäger on a dead man's chest") but a mistaken need to "correct" all instances of "jägers" as if that were not the normal plural form, especially since it is clearly attested in the canon. ⚙Zarchne 19:29, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Jägermonstern ✣ has also been seen as a way of pluralizing it. However, you can argue over whether or not it's more correct to pluralize Jäger in English, German, or any other way. Mostly, I believe, it's a matter of preference over pretty much anything else. Thia Stormhouse 03:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

more outside information[]

i can't believe i forgot up to now that the term Jäger is still used quite a bit in military language - even found an english article on wikipedia Finn MacCool 11:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Jäger physiology[]

So.. Out of curiosity, why isn't the fact that you can't hang a Jäger to death or cause one to die from slicing off their arm listed as part of that category? BTW--does anyone know what could kill a Jäger (I'm not even positive I'd believe beheading a consistent method....) I haven't paid enough attention (yet) to all the ways the Jägermonsters have been maimed to feel I could make a comprehensive addition at this time. --Axisor 15:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

i think that in fact, hanging works - it just takes quite some time Finn MacCool 16:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not so sure it would have. They had been hanging for two days ✣ , and they were still able to talk (so their air wasn't cut off--which was the back-up way of killing by hanging, the first being neck snapping from the physics of it). Maybe they would have died of starvation or boredom, but I don't think the hanging would have been able to do it--unless Zumzum really messed up the standard hanging protocol. --Axisor 16:14, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

well, according to lars, the mayor has a betting pool going. so either this town has never dealt with jägerkin before or they know it can take a while Finn MacCool 17:58, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of this, shouldn't the page say they first crossed paths with Agatha in ZumZum, as refrenced here ✣ , not Beetleburg? Or am I going completely nuts? Dmbreakey (talk) 23:28, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Jager Honor[]

Just a thought... The Jager, as a general rule, seem to be admirable in their honor, courage, and the solidarity of their beliefs. Of all the character types in this strip, I admire the Jager the most. They have decided to be true to their masters, and go to great lengths to uphold their responsibilities to those they choose to serve (the voluntary quest for Heterodyne heirs, for starters). On top of that,their instant but not unthinking displays of courage when fighting on behalf of those they serve are unmatched by all others in this strip. Granted, they have an unequaled love of battle, so they seem to join the fight for the fun of it more than any other reason, but any request given them by their chosen leader is unhesitatingly followed through with, so long as it is not perceived as ill advised. Of course, they stand up against orders they think are ill advised, which shows they have free will and minds of their own. I think this makes their bravery all the more moving. Now the point of all this...

The Jager are as selfless as their masters in certain ways, fearless, and utterly reliable. Their foibles are petty at worst, and charming at best. Shouldn't this poignant display of honor and loyalty be a core part of their description? I think so. Even if it's a small insert, just a sentence or two, I think it would greatly aid in their description. If the community agrees, I'd like to take a little time to put a statement into this article remarking on their fealty to those they choose to trust. I'll even make it sound impartial.

Jager-monster drink IRL...[]

Yep ... it happened :D

Don't know if it was a fan doing it on the sly or just a happy accident, but a bar local to me was selling these rather disgusting-sounding liquer/energy-drink cocktails last time i was in, with a nice big chalkboard advertising them. I snapped a picture with my phone, but it's gone a bit wrong and I can't get the photos out at the moment :( ... as far as I can tell, it is just a plain single shot of 'meister topped up with the red bull -a-like stuff. No, I havent tried one, either ingredient is nasty to my tastebuds, can't imagine the combination would be much better. After all, jaegerbombs (shot glass of JM in a pint "full" of actual red bull) are good for nothing except unexpected perkiness and making you ill.

Hmmm... I wonder if this is where the in-universe inspiration came from for the battledraught in fact :D

(Part of the UK Wetherspoons chain, if it's popped up elsewhere and anyone else can confirm it)

Hy objeck![]

Hy objeck to de section marked Jaeger Sociology. Jaegers are inherently anti-social, & hyu dem vell know it! --Bosda Di'Chi 11:22, May 14, 2012 (UTC)