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By the typing of your thumbs, something wiki this way comes.


I understand that reference. Actually, I don't, but I watched Avengers for the first time a few weeks ago and now I understand what the "I understood that reference" meme refers to, so the flying mammals remind me of that. Zeno of Citium doesn't mean anything to me other than I skimmed Zeno of Citium and determined it's a different guy than the paradox Zeno (i.e., of Elea); if it had been the latter I'd assume it was about the difficulty of getting the ship moving. But Citium... Maybe Captain Pierre has some attributes in common? ⚙Zarchne (talk) 06:08, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


Zeno of Citium was a Hellenistic philosopher from Citium, Cyprus. Zeno was the founder of the Stoic school of philosophy, which he taught in Athens from about 300 BC. "Stoic", is certainly an apt description of Pierre's personality. In that light the ships name perfectly describes its owner. (Dperra)

I guess my problem is I don't see Pierre as particularly virtuous. My sense of virtue is wrong. ⚙Zarchne (talk) 16:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


Who said anything about being virtuous according to some standard set by society? Pierre is virtuous in that he accepts that he is among individuals who could easily turn him into something "unnatural". In this case he is living in harmony with the nature of his current circumstance. In this case virtue is defined as the ability to know and accept what he cannot change. (Dperra)

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