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Someone on Patreon figured out before I did that what Castle is half-remembering is the Dyne. (Before it was tamed to power the Castle?) Bkharvey (talk) 05:46, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes! I literally just had an epiphany in the shower and just had to make an account.. I feel this could be hugely significant. On the page for last Friday people were already speculating about this being Albia's source of power, and the rot the cause of Albia sinking. I do not believe this to be the case, but that there might still be a significant link. Allow me to elaborate. Clearly, this IS a source exactly like the Dyne. In the story of the Dyne it is made clear that it was originally linked to a Battle Goddess, but what KIND of Goddess is never revealed. The story explains how the well was expanded drastically, meaning the original Goddess only had access to a limited amount of its power. But now it powers the Castle and the Castle keeps this VERY secret, even from the Heterodynes, Agatha is the first of them to know this and only learns this by chance due to the Castle's imminent needs. The Dyne is also the start of a major river. IF Albia indeed draws her power and her longevity from a similar source, it seems unlikely to me that it is this one. I nominate the source of the Thames, with Albia taking serious measures to protect that secret and also being regionally bound as a result, she can't move far from her power source. Since she is dependant on that source, she likely utilizes it to the maximum, just as Castle Heterodyne does, leaving the river Thames (or whichever other river) itself completely harmless, just as the river in Mechanicsburg. But here, in the past few pages, we have an untapped river! Such power needs to go somewhere and is likely the explanation for this rot. Now, if this source is on par with that of Albia and Castle Heterodyne, Agatha here has all that she would need to become a Goddess herself, as well as a handy power source compatible with technology she has on hand (the small part of the Castle at least) and is intimately familiar with already. Tapping it would also stop the rot and any nasty consequences of that. I also wonder if Lucrezia was ever aware of this source, or the one at the castle (unlikely, as the Castle would NEVER have voluntarily shared it with her, if he didn't even share it with his masters). Someone like Lucrezia would've tapped a source like that for all it was worth. If Lucrezia is devoid of such a powerful tool, then Agatha could indeed become a Goddess not unlike (or potentially even more powerful than) Albia and replace Lucrezia as the Goddess of the Geisterdamen, which we already know is bound to happen from the flash-forwards we've seen. So this seemingly unrelated, funny intermezzo could have far reaching consequences! TheCinC (talk) 11:21, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
TheCinC, welcome to the Girl Genius wiki! I am always happy to see a new person contribute, especially when they create an account. Thank you for doing so. Your speculation is very interesting and I will keep it in mind as future developments unfold. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 19:43, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

I guess Agatha's PC needs additional memory? Zibbiz (talk) 22:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Zibbiz, I see what you did there :-). It took me a few moments to realize that PC can stand for Portable Castle as well as Personal Computer, but when I got the joke, I laughed out loud. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 19:51, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

So the toxic products from the burning of this 'source' have been rotting away the rock and the structures containing it. Perhaps the toxic stuff eventually leeched into the ocean and that caused the poisoning of the waters and the madness of the Great Cetaceans?

Maybe the dead Queen we saw earlier with the little clanks was tapping into this power source (if that is in fact the source of their power) and essentially preventing any of the toxic stuff to accumulate. The flame could be a tool to tap into the power, that once left unchecked/unused would bring about the toxic buildup we see now.

Albia could have one at the source of the Thames and perhaps the spark war 300 years ago somehow made it impossible for her to reach it or control it properly and thus a similar rock-rotting toxic buildup could be responsible for the unstoppable sinking.

Lucrezia while possessing Agatha was able to become a Queen, though; what was the power source there, if one is needed? Another one underneath the dome? Or was she sharing the same as Albia? Her dialogue at the time doesn't hint to the need of being at any specific location.

Could the activation of Prende's lantern nearby somehow start or interfere with the flame?

If this is in fact a similar power source as the Dyne AND the power source of the Queens, it would be funny how the Heterodynes missed the chance of becoming immortal quasi-gods and instead used it 'only' to power a gigantic building-machine. Though some of them clearly used the waters in the past, like Agatha did once. Only not on a permanent basis. Perhaps only women can become permanent Queens, and the Heterodynes rarely produced girls... and we know the Castle was not keen on showing every master what was going on down there. Agrante (talk) 18:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Agrante, I see you have had an account for a while now. If you weren't welcomed to the Girl Genius wiki earlier, then I welcome you now. I am always happy to see new contributors, and especially so if they create an account, so it is possible to associate an identity with the posts. Thanks! -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 19:48, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

If Queens were restricted to staying near their Source, there wouldn't have been all the secrecy about their precise locations, because they couldn't have invaded each other. Bkharvey (talk) 05:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

But, assuming it is correct that the Queens are tied to power sources like the Dyne and cannot move far from them, they still wouldn't want their locations known because someone might try to corrupt, cut off, or otherwise prevent the Queen from continuing to have access to the font of their power. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 19:56, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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