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Poor Tarvek... Bkharvey (talk) 06:28, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

But, you know, Othar is basically right about Tarvek: He started out as a bad guy and had a real turnaround, back in the Castle. That is impressive! Bkharvey (talk) 06:32, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Somewhat apropos: "I've never really considered myself the 'hero' type." Zibbiz (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Tarvek is a decent person at heart who happens to have been born into a nest of vipers. He is a weasel. It's a survival trait. I've never found him to be "bad' or "evil" per se. Upon finding the "Heterodyne Princess' in his arms combined with actually starting to like Agatha, Tarvek starts his shift away from his family. He now sees a path (it didn't work). He does not see Agatha the way Tweedle does, as simply a way to secure the Lightning Throne. I do see his "betrayal' at Sturmhalten as an attempt to both save Agatha and keep her away from the Baron. He has too many obstacles to get past. Fred1740 (talk) 00:26, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Don't forget that on that same page, the plan he tries to tell Agatha and instead tells Lucrezia is to take her technology and conquer all of Europa by turning people into revenants -- essentially the same as Zola's plan. I'm a super Tarvek fan, but on that page he was still a bad guy. It's the turnaround that makes him so interesting! Bkharvey (talk) 00:37, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
He doesn't explicitly say he will turn people into revenants, but he does know that there are already many sleeper revenants, and admittedly it's not clear what other tech he knows about. ⚙Zarchne (talk) 04:59, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Ah, right, Othar's barbarous and suicidal view on sparks. I'm not sure it will go over well with the rest of the cast, and I'm hoping colette (since he has pretty much indirectly threatened her, in her own domain) or one of the others will shut him down. 07:14, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, Othar's barbarous and suicidal view on sparks. Also everybody else's perfectly reasonable views on Othar. Bosda Di'Chi 11:16, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Yup, Othar, still a monster. They probably need him too much re the situation in the North for anything immediate to happen, but he probably wouldn't be too upset if there was just a little gargoyle assisted defenestration. ("Foul!") Zibbiz (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Remember, it's entirely a coincidence that "Othar" looks/sounds like "Other". ⚙Zarchne (talk) 13:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Side Issue: I keep looking at Othar's white hair & that punchline and went to look up the Foglios... is anybody else concerned that Phil is 65 years old and this story has no end in sight? I mean, in theory Agatha still needs to travel to Africa, Skifander, and the Citadel of Silver Light. Can they cover that in 3.5 books? In 16.5 if it's a 3 Act story? I can't imagine anybody else drawing these comics, so I hope they have an exit strategy before Phil gets arthritis or worse. Fingers crossed for you Phil - "You shall be among the last to die!" DLcygnet (talk) 20:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

I suspect that Monahan's island has replaced Africa. I know Kaja once said the comic would go for 20 volumes as she didn't want to do 26. Maybe 30 to 35? I would like to add as a 72 year old (crabby old man) that 65 isn't time for the nursing home by a long shot. It does depend on Phil's general state of health but I think he's got another 10 - 15 easy. Fred1740 (talk) 00:35, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
I agree completely! The equivalent of adult coloring is something he could do until he's 100 under ideal circumstances! But I just lost a coworker to COVID-19 on Friday and he was around the same age or younger. They're on volume 22, so it sounds like 20 volumes isn't in the cards. 30 would be fine by me, but it's taking just over a year per volume; do they have enough steam to continue for another 8-9 years? DLcygnet (talk) 14:54, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
I don't really think that drawing a comic like Girl Genius is the "equivalent of adult coloring"; it is a lot harder. As far as the state of Phil's health goes, since I have been following Girl Genius a long time, I know that Phil has diabetes, but he seems to have it under control; it certainly isn't mentioned much. I certainly hope he has has ten to fifteen working years left, if he wants to keep going. I also hope he can finish the comic sooner than that and retire, if he wants to. The primary problem the Foglios face before being able to retire is generating enough income from the comic to set up a retirement fund. I hope they manage it. -- 🔧William Ansley (talk) 02:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)